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This is deceptive. It’s a tautology. Pizza - as Americans define it - is American. You may as well say Orange Chicken is - shockingly - not Chinese. Most Itali

This is deceptive. It’s a tautology. Pizza - as Americans define it - is American. You may as well say Orange Chicken is - shockingly - not Chinese. Most Italian food served in the US is American food made by immigrants. Just as Indian food in the Uk is. Italian American food is heavier, much more meat based, and drowning in cheese and garlic in a way Italian food isn’t. Pizza is Italian. Period. American style pizza is a riff on that which has become popular outside the US. However claiming that pizza is American is akin to saying Chinese food is. Nonsense.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> Pizza is Italian. Period. American style pizza is a riff on that Sure, do you have a contemporaneous source? Because the food historians who have traced its history through primary sources do, and they point to one story: pizza marinara and its variants in Naples in the 18th and 19th centuries, which had almost no cheese, sometimes no sauce (it wasn’t marinara then), and—crucially—wasn’t heated nearly as much as today’s Neapolitan pizzas, and the modern Italian pizza after WWII. Also, I didn’t say pizza is American. I said it’s a post-War invention. Certainly in its proliferation across Italy, and strongly influenced by America’s Italians. And I’m referring to the pizza one gets in Italy. (I’m on the Gulf of Napoli for the umpteenth time in a week.) American pizza is distinct, and also different from its own pre-war form.
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