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Open source's resident lunatic is esr, not rms.

by eesmith 2y ago

rvense 2y ago
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zer00eyz 2y ago
RMS's rider begs to differ: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3159210 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3159210
- mandmandam 2y ago
  Did you not read the top comments on that post all talking about how sensible that rider is, how moral, how much time it would save? Smearing people like this should not be acceptable on HN.
  - zer00eyz 2y ago
    Did you not read what he wrote? Between the good stuff there's enough oddity that it looks rather stallmanesqe... > A supply of tea with milk and sugar would be nice. If it is tea I really like, I like it without milk and sugar. With milk and sugar, any kind of tea is fine. I always bring tea bags with me, so if we use my tea bags, I will certainly like that tea without milk or sugar. You want tea? But don't say what kind? > If you can find a host for me that has a friendly parrot, I will be very very glad. If you can find someone who has a friendly parrot I can visit with, that will be nice too. > DON'T buy a parrot figuring that it will be a fun surprise for me. .... Friendly and Parrot is pretty much a dam unicorn if you know what's up. Why is your preference for Parrots in here? Is this legit something you think any of us should give a shit about? Brown M&M's was in there for a reason. I am not finding a parrot for you RMS. And, for the love of god, who bought him a parrot.
    - eesmith 2y ago
      > But don't say what kind? Which I interpret as "don't go out of your way to get special tea for me." > Why is your preference for Parrots in here? Because some people fawn over famous people, and once they hear through the grapevine that Stallman likes parrots, they'll do daft things like buy him a parrot for the visit, without realizing how horrible that is to the parrot.
    - DonHopkins 2y ago
      There is a missed opportunity to troll him by shacking him up with an unfriendly parrot, trained to say "Open Source Software".
      - eesmith 2y ago
        That would be animal cruelty, like buying someone a baby chick for Easter just to laugh at them trying to take care of it or find it a good home. Parrots are flock animals. An unfriendly parrot means it's not been socialized or engaged with enough, probably isolated and unhappy.
- eesmith 2y ago
  The rider is reasonable for someone in his position ... which is not one which promotes "open source'. As he writes in the primary source for the HN link you gave: > I usually decline to participate in "open source" or "Linux" events. .. > "Open source" is the slogan of a position that was formulated as a reaction against the free software movement. Those who support its views have a right to promote them, but I disagree with them and I want to promote the ideals of free software. That's rms affirming what I said.
DonHopkins 2y ago
ESR is Open Source's resident racist.
- duozerk 2y ago
  Also misogynistic and homophobic.
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  - d_tr 2y ago
    Slanderous drivel.
    - DonHopkins 2y ago
      I agree, ESR certainly does spout a lot of slanderous, racist, misogynistic, and homophobic drivel. That and attacking RMS is basically his whole schtick. Truth is a complete defense to a claim of slander, and ESR's own words provide that proof and defense for everyone who rightly calls him racist, misogynistic, and homophobic. Words so vile and lurid that people have actually begged Thomas Ptacek to stop posting them to twitter, and donated over $30,000 to charity just to not hear ESR's own words quoted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_S._Raymond#Political_beliefs_and_activism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_S._Raymond#Political_beli... >Raymond has claimed that "Gays experimented with unfettered promiscuity in the 1970s and got AIDS as a consequence", and that "Police who react to a random black male behaving suspiciously who might be in the critical age range as though he is an near-imminent lethal threat, are being rational, not racist."[30][31] A progressive campaign, "The Great Slate", was successful in raising funds for candidates in part by asking for contributions from tech workers in return for not posting similar quotes by Raymond. Matasano Security employee and Great Slate fundraiser Thomas Ptacek said, "I've been torturing Twitter with lurid Eric S. Raymond quotes for years. Every time I do, 20 people beg me to stop." It is estimated that, as of March 2018, over $30,000 has been raised in this way.[32]
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Open source's resident lunatic is esr, not rms.

rvense 2y ago

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zer00eyz 2y ago

RMS's rider begs to differ: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3159210 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3159210

mandmandam 2y ago
Did you not read the top comments on that post all talking about how sensible that rider is, how moral, how much time it would save? Smearing people like this should not be acceptable on HN.
- zer00eyz 2y ago
  Did you not read what he wrote? Between the good stuff there's enough oddity that it looks rather stallmanesqe... > A supply of tea with milk and sugar would be nice. If it is tea I really like, I like it without milk and sugar. With milk and sugar, any kind of tea is fine. I always bring tea bags with me, so if we use my tea bags, I will certainly like that tea without milk or sugar. You want tea? But don't say what kind? > If you can find a host for me that has a friendly parrot, I will be very very glad. If you can find someone who has a friendly parrot I can visit with, that will be nice too. > DON'T buy a parrot figuring that it will be a fun surprise for me. .... Friendly and Parrot is pretty much a dam unicorn if you know what's up. Why is your preference for Parrots in here? Is this legit something you think any of us should give a shit about? Brown M&M's was in there for a reason. I am not finding a parrot for you RMS. And, for the love of god, who bought him a parrot.
  - eesmith 2y ago
    > But don't say what kind? Which I interpret as "don't go out of your way to get special tea for me." > Why is your preference for Parrots in here? Because some people fawn over famous people, and once they hear through the grapevine that Stallman likes parrots, they'll do daft things like buy him a parrot for the visit, without realizing how horrible that is to the parrot.
  - DonHopkins 2y ago
    There is a missed opportunity to troll him by shacking him up with an unfriendly parrot, trained to say "Open Source Software".
    - eesmith 2y ago
      That would be animal cruelty, like buying someone a baby chick for Easter just to laugh at them trying to take care of it or find it a good home. Parrots are flock animals. An unfriendly parrot means it's not been socialized or engaged with enough, probably isolated and unhappy.
eesmith 2y ago
The rider is reasonable for someone in his position ... which is not one which promotes "open source'. As he writes in the primary source for the HN link you gave: > I usually decline to participate in "open source" or "Linux" events. .. > "Open source" is the slogan of a position that was formulated as a reaction against the free software movement. Those who support its views have a right to promote them, but I disagree with them and I want to promote the ideals of free software. That's rms affirming what I said.

DonHopkins 2y ago

ESR is Open Source's resident racist.

duozerk 2y ago
Also misogynistic and homophobic.
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- d_tr 2y ago
  Slanderous drivel.
  - DonHopkins 2y ago
    I agree, ESR certainly does spout a lot of slanderous, racist, misogynistic, and homophobic drivel. That and attacking RMS is basically his whole schtick. Truth is a complete defense to a claim of slander, and ESR's own words provide that proof and defense for everyone who rightly calls him racist, misogynistic, and homophobic. Words so vile and lurid that people have actually begged Thomas Ptacek to stop posting them to twitter, and donated over $30,000 to charity just to not hear ESR's own words quoted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_S._Raymond#Political_beliefs_and_activism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_S._Raymond#Political_beli... >Raymond has claimed that "Gays experimented with unfettered promiscuity in the 1970s and got AIDS as a consequence", and that "Police who react to a random black male behaving suspiciously who might be in the critical age range as though he is an near-imminent lethal threat, are being rational, not racist."[30][31] A progressive campaign, "The Great Slate", was successful in raising funds for candidates in part by asking for contributions from tech workers in return for not posting similar quotes by Raymond. Matasano Security employee and Great Slate fundraiser Thomas Ptacek said, "I've been torturing Twitter with lurid Eric S. Raymond quotes for years. Every time I do, 20 people beg me to stop." It is estimated that, as of March 2018, over $30,000 has been raised in this way.[32]
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