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Nah it's just bad parenting. If a parent lets social media have that large of an impact on their child's life that's on them. The reason kids are psychologicall

Nah it's just bad parenting. If a parent lets social media have that large of an impact on their child's life that's on them. The reason kids are psychologically messed up is because their parents aren't handling their responsibilities. If your kid has a problem with social media or anything else then deal with it and stop finger pointing

watwut 2y ago
Parents are already spending way more time and effort actively parenting then was the norm in previous generations. Just a generation before it was norm for 6 years old to play outside completely unsupervised and for teenagers to be about their own things with nothing but a list of chores from parents and deadline. Result is that kids commit less crimes, get pregnant less often, drink less, smoke less ... but at some point you have to stop blaming parents for the whole society.
- nickburns 2y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosy_retrospection https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosy_retrospection
  - TeaBrain 2y ago
    I think this is a lazy response to something that isn't a very good example of rosy retrospection. The rates of all of the things the parent mentioned do happen to have decreased. Studies have also been done on the relative freedom of movement that adolescents have been allowed, going back several generations, and there has been a marked decrease. The below link is to a paper on this phenomenon occurring in England. "Decreasing experiences of home range, outdoor spaces, activities and companions": https://eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/94588/1/Woolley%2520and%2520Griffin%25202015%2520%2520Decreasing%2520experiences%2520of%2520home%2520range%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520Jan%25202016.pdf https://eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/94588/1/Woolley%2520and%2520... Article covering another more recent study, called "Decline in Independent Activity as a Cause of Decline in Children’s Mental Wellbeing", on this occurring in the US: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/03/230309101330.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/03/230309101330.h...
    - nickburns 2y ago
      i grant you lazy response, and raise you another: the articles you cite are likely more rosy retrospection themselves. none of anything being discussed here is, in my opinion, reliably nor convincingly quantifiable.
      - TeaBrain 2y ago
        Rosy retrospection of what? I think you're just repeatedly invoking the term inappropriately. The first link is to an article on home range, which obviously has nothing to do with rosy retrospection, had you even bothered to glance at it. Is the fact that suicide rates in the US have been rising steadily over the last two decades and are now at the highest point in the last 80 years also rosy retrospection? https://www.usatoday.com/story/graphics/2023/11/29/2022-suicide-rate-historical-chart-comparison-graphic/71737857007/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/graphics/2023/11/29/2022-suic...
        nickburns 2y ago
        > Rosy retrospection of what? I think you're just repeatedly invoking the term inappropriately. don't be daft. > Is the fact that suicide rates in the US have been rising steadily over the last two decades and are now at the highest point in the last 80 years also rosy retrospection? i'll attempt to make my position clear one final time: i don't accept any of your premises as fact. not about the reason/s behind rates of suicide (who that's actually committed suicide can tell us why they did?), nor the statistical measurement thereof for that matter. not about rates of homework assignment nor "home range" nor "relative freedom of movement" nor the degree of parenting... intensity? none of it. again, these 'phenomena', let's call them for the sake of argument, in my opinion, are not convincingly nor reliably quantifiable. you are also entitled to your own opinion, whether based on the opinions of others or conceived of yourself. but we should be careful when branding something as fact just because someone else has assigned some contrived numbers to their own unprovable opinion.
        TeaBrain 2y ago
- barber_the_dope 2y ago
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thenerdhead 2y ago
typical comment blaming the parents instead of the decades of innovation leading to addictive technology behaviors.
- meowster 2y ago
  In this thread: "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."
helf 2y ago
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watwut 2y ago

Parents are already spending way more time and effort actively parenting then was the norm in previous generations. Just a generation before it was norm for 6 years old to play outside completely unsupervised and for teenagers to be about their own things with nothing but a list of chores from parents and deadline. Result is that kids commit less crimes, get pregnant less often, drink less, smoke less ... but at some point you have to stop blaming parents for the whole society.

nickburns 2y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosy_retrospection https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosy_retrospection
- TeaBrain 2y ago
  I think this is a lazy response to something that isn't a very good example of rosy retrospection. The rates of all of the things the parent mentioned do happen to have decreased. Studies have also been done on the relative freedom of movement that adolescents have been allowed, going back several generations, and there has been a marked decrease. The below link is to a paper on this phenomenon occurring in England. "Decreasing experiences of home range, outdoor spaces, activities and companions": https://eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/94588/1/Woolley%2520and%2520Griffin%25202015%2520%2520Decreasing%2520experiences%2520of%2520home%2520range%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520Jan%25202016.pdf https://eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/94588/1/Woolley%2520and%2520... Article covering another more recent study, called "Decline in Independent Activity as a Cause of Decline in Children’s Mental Wellbeing", on this occurring in the US: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/03/230309101330.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/03/230309101330.h...
  - nickburns 2y ago
    i grant you lazy response, and raise you another: the articles you cite are likely more rosy retrospection themselves. none of anything being discussed here is, in my opinion, reliably nor convincingly quantifiable.
    - TeaBrain 2y ago
      Rosy retrospection of what? I think you're just repeatedly invoking the term inappropriately. The first link is to an article on home range, which obviously has nothing to do with rosy retrospection, had you even bothered to glance at it. Is the fact that suicide rates in the US have been rising steadily over the last two decades and are now at the highest point in the last 80 years also rosy retrospection? https://www.usatoday.com/story/graphics/2023/11/29/2022-suicide-rate-historical-chart-comparison-graphic/71737857007/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/graphics/2023/11/29/2022-suic...
      - nickburns 2y ago
        > Rosy retrospection of what? I think you're just repeatedly invoking the term inappropriately. don't be daft. > Is the fact that suicide rates in the US have been rising steadily over the last two decades and are now at the highest point in the last 80 years also rosy retrospection? i'll attempt to make my position clear one final time: i don't accept any of your premises as fact. not about the reason/s behind rates of suicide (who that's actually committed suicide can tell us why they did?), nor the statistical measurement thereof for that matter. not about rates of homework assignment nor "home range" nor "relative freedom of movement" nor the degree of parenting... intensity? none of it. again, these 'phenomena', let's call them for the sake of argument, in my opinion, are not convincingly nor reliably quantifiable. you are also entitled to your own opinion, whether based on the opinions of others or conceived of yourself. but we should be careful when branding something as fact just because someone else has assigned some contrived numbers to their own unprovable opinion.
        TeaBrain 2y ago
barber_the_dope 2y ago
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thenerdhead 2y ago

typical comment blaming the parents instead of the decades of innovation leading to addictive technology behaviors.

meowster 2y ago
In this thread: "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."

helf 2y ago

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