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Isn't France primarily nuclear powered? Why the heck would an environmental plan for the village consist of "let's not use the major dominant energy benefit the
by XorNot 2y ago
Isn't France primarily nuclear powered? Why the heck would an environmental plan for the village consist of "let's not use the major dominant energy benefit the country has".
This is why I hate the environmentalist movement: it's full of "lifestyle austerity" types who don't want to solve the problem unless everyone suffers "appropriately".
- nathanaldensr 2y agoI would argue that's nearly always the goal of the loudest voices in the "movement." It's just the latest authoritarian mask worn by those who would control every aspect of our lives.
- elteto 2y agoI propose the Olympic committee to be the one not using AC, as well as not traveling by airplane or car, until they offset the equivalent amount of CO2 production. That’s a win-win! The athletes get to sleep well and we _also_ help the environment! We all know how that proposal would fare.
- quantified 2y agoI mean, if you want to lower the carbon footprints, don't have an Olympics. Travel to and from the games from outside Paris will cost a great deal of carbon.
- jltsiren 2y agoThey are using ground-source heat pumps for cooling, which are more efficient than air-source heat pumps. The target temperature has simply been set higher than some would prefer. France using nuclear power is part of the problem. In summer 2022 and 2023, fewer than expected reactors were operational, for a number of reasons. Some of those reasons could repeat if the summer is hot and dry.
- Krssst 2y agoThe problem is that we shut down a working reactor few years ago for political reasons and that we didn't build more for several decades. When NREs fail to provide enough electricity we don't get a news article, because otherwise it would be the headline almost every day. 2022 and 2023 were a bad time because of delayed COVID maintenance + issue detected of several reactors + heat. This was after decades of no problem. The summer heat is here to stay and get worse so it should be taken into account when building new reactors.
- RecycledEle 2y agoI agree. I have heard many environmentalists who were horrified at the idea of non-polluting energy, because then everyone would use more energy, which was horrific to them. I believe most environmental activists do not want to help humanity; they want to make humanity extinct.
- dzhiurgis 2y agoEnvironmentalists are also ones who worked against building, which now makes it impossible to build out green infrastructure. So environmentalists are ones that fucked up the environment…
- namaria 2y agoThe marginal increase in energy consumption from the olympics won't come out of the baseline nuclear energy supply.
- XorNot 2y agoThen take it out of the very cheap solar power + batteries that people swear we have. An entire olympic village is being built, new, at considerable expense - the carbon excess on that construction alone is going to be immense and that's all diesel ICE vehicles. Instead of doing a stupid thing: seriously reducing the livability of the buildings in a way no one would really want, do the smart thing and build out the renewable capacity - with the bonus that you get to keep the renewable capacity afterwards. (of course in reality, France has load following nuclear reactors: they can absolutely throttle up a little more to accommodate increased night time load, and power grid smoothing measures can ensure air conditioning the buildings works well with this - i.e. using variable speed compressors)