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France has a lot of nuclear power. Why didn't it happen there? Edit: looks like something different is happening: French Power Slumps as Surging Renewables Pu

France has a lot of nuclear power. Why didn't it happen there? Edit: looks like something different is happening: French Power Slumps as Surging Renewables Push Out Atomic Plants https://tildes.net/~enviro/1h6r/french_power_slumps_as_surging_renewables_push_out_atomic_plants https://tildes.net/~enviro/1h6r/french_power_slumps_as_surgi...

TomatoCo 2y ago
It's not exactly what you're looking for but one of the big three contenders in the AI space (after OpenAI and Anthropic) is Mistral, based in France.
Kuinox 2y ago
Lots of anti nuclear movements, managed to reduce investment into the nuclear power, and increase cost. We have not opened a plant in 25 years. Research plants have been closed down by anti nuclear activists. Some of this movement is funded by Germany Governement.
- redprince 2y ago
  > Some of this movement is funded by Germany Governement. At first I thought you were joking, but of course you were absolutely right: https://www.howsolargotcheap.com/germany https://www.howsolargotcheap.com/germany
  - Kuinox 2y ago
    Our Economic Warfare School (EGE, École de Guerre Économique) recently made a report on the subject: https://www.ege.fr/sites/ege.fr/files/media_files/German_Interference_Political_Foundations.pdf https://www.ege.fr/sites/ege.fr/files/media_files/German_Int...
proc0 2y ago
Seems like it is happening? I'm guessing the maintenance might be the downside here, but they now have all the experience to build newer, better ones. > France derives about 70% of its electricity from nuclear energy, due to a long-standing policy based on energy security. > France is the world's largest net exporter of electricity due to its very low cost of generation, and gains over €3 billion per year from this. https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profiles/countries-a-f/france https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profil...
- skybrian 2y ago
  I was wondering why electricity isn't cheaper in France. I guess one reason is taxes? Here's an article from January: https://www.rfi.fr/en/france/20240122-french-electricity-prices-to-increase-with-phase-out-of-energy-crisis-tax-cuts https://www.rfi.fr/en/france/20240122-french-electricity-pri...
  - NewJazz 2y ago
    Because their grid isn't standalone, it is linked to the rest of Europe, which is a very power hungry region.

TomatoCo 2y ago

It's not exactly what you're looking for but one of the big three contenders in the AI space (after OpenAI and Anthropic) is Mistral, based in France.

Kuinox 2y ago

Lots of anti nuclear movements, managed to reduce investment into the nuclear power, and increase cost. We have not opened a plant in 25 years. Research plants have been closed down by anti nuclear activists. Some of this movement is funded by Germany Governement.

redprince 2y ago
> Some of this movement is funded by Germany Governement. At first I thought you were joking, but of course you were absolutely right: https://www.howsolargotcheap.com/germany https://www.howsolargotcheap.com/germany
- Kuinox 2y ago
  Our Economic Warfare School (EGE, École de Guerre Économique) recently made a report on the subject: https://www.ege.fr/sites/ege.fr/files/media_files/German_Interference_Political_Foundations.pdf https://www.ege.fr/sites/ege.fr/files/media_files/German_Int...

proc0 2y ago

Seems like it is happening? I'm guessing the maintenance might be the downside here, but they now have all the experience to build newer, better ones. > France derives about 70% of its electricity from nuclear energy, due to a long-standing policy based on energy security. > France is the world's largest net exporter of electricity due to its very low cost of generation, and gains over €3 billion per year from this. https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profiles/countries-a-f/france https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profil...

skybrian 2y ago
I was wondering why electricity isn't cheaper in France. I guess one reason is taxes? Here's an article from January: https://www.rfi.fr/en/france/20240122-french-electricity-prices-to-increase-with-phase-out-of-energy-crisis-tax-cuts https://www.rfi.fr/en/france/20240122-french-electricity-pri...
- NewJazz 2y ago
  Because their grid isn't standalone, it is linked to the rest of Europe, which is a very power hungry region.