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How much admixture would there be? All the major Macedonian cities are part of modern Greece. Even the application of the name to North Macedonia is more a Rom
by o11c 2y ago
How much admixture would there be? All the major Macedonian cities are part of modern Greece.
Even the application of the name to North Macedonia is more a Roman thing than anything else. We don't call all of Greece (not to mention all the other lands conquered by Alexander) "Macedonia" just because it was conquered by Macedon back then ...
- quotz 2y agoNot that true. There were significant populations of slavic macedonians living in what is now modern greece back when it was all ottoman empire. Post ww2 there was a yugoslav - greek war disguised as a civil war, which led to ethnic greeks killing and kicking out the majority of macedonian slavs that didnt want to convert to being greeks (change their name, and stop speaking macedonian at home). I personally know plenty people whos grandparents were refugees from that “civil war” and had to flee to yugoslavia, because their land and houses were stolen. Actually if you go now to Florina and Kozani because times have changed you will find plenty of people starting to come out of the closet and speak macedonian yet again and start openly practicing their culture, despite enduring forced assimilation years ago. Even despite the changing of the majority of town names, theres still slavic sounding names in the thessaly and epirus region. The current people living in modern turkey that were greek back centuries ago and had to assimilate due to various reasons from greeks to turks, would current greeks nor accept them as part of their culture and greek identity now? Would you say that current turks and greeks share some identity despite the annihilation of the byzantinians? Would the aromanians of modern greece not be accepted as being part of the greek identity? Would the bulgarians not identify with their mongol steppe nomad overlords that came over in early medieval age and started a khanate over the local slav populations? Would the modern hungarians claim that they are in fact mongol asians? These are complicated topics, and politics are just making it worse. There is no definite answer, because the truth lies in who has more power to enforce it. Both greeks and macedonians drown their daily life struggles and sorrows by beating the nationalism drum, so that the corrupt politicians can scream stupid lies on the microphones so they can continue with their corruption, and the common people eat it up like porridge. History is much more complicated.
- kjkjadksj 2y agoI’m implying that southern slavs having distant ancient macedonian ancestors seems pretty likely to me. People don’t just disappear and make way for an incoming group of people, these slavic migrants 900 years after alexander the great lived probably interbred and assimilated cultures to an extent with whoever was in the balkan peninsula at the time.