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You cannot copy from memory. I have a semiphotographic memory of nearly all of Star Wars (all three episodes). Do you think that I can reproduce this and distri

You cannot copy from memory. I have a semiphotographic memory of nearly all of Star Wars (all three episodes). Do you think that I can reproduce this and distributed it to others? Legally? Morally?

stavros 2y ago
Yes you can, both legally and morally, and yet nobody tries to ban you from watching Star Wars.
- petermcneeley 2y ago
  If I recreate from memory Star Wars using Blender and then distribute it to others do you think this is Legal / Moral?
  - gdubs 2y ago
    I mean, we don't have to guess – this is what current copyright law protects against. The question is whether it should be illegal even if you never profit from it, or somehow dilute the IP owner's brand.
    - petermcneeley 2y ago
      >I mean, we don't have to guess – this is what current copyright law protects against. I dont think this is clear to others given the parent comment answer Yes instead of No.
      - gdubs 2y ago
        Well, totally fair because I also did not read very carefully. You said 'distribute' – and in that one word is where lawyers and judges earn their pay :)
  - pseudosavant 2y ago
    That isn’t what is happening with AI training though… If you apply that to AI, that is more like training using only Dan Brown novels and then asking the AI to recreate The Da Vinci Code. How much of the work you use in your transformations is a major factor for derivative works. So you probably could make a single Star Wars scene from memory using Blender. But not the whole movie.
- 0xcde4c3db 2y ago
  How do you square that with Bright Tunes v. Harrisongs [1], which found liability for a tune that the composer unintentionally (by most accounts, and in the opinion of the court) reproduced from memory? [1] https://www.americanbar.org/groups/intellectual_property_law/publications/landslide/2016-17/march-april/ghosts-hit-machine-musical-creation-doctrine-subconscious-copying/ https://www.americanbar.org/groups/intellectual_property_law...

You cannot copy from memory. I have a semiphotographic memory of nearly all of Star Wars (all three episodes). Do you think that I can reproduce this and distributed it to others? Legally? Morally?

stavros 2y ago

Yes you can, both legally and morally, and yet nobody tries to ban you from watching Star Wars.

petermcneeley 2y ago
If I recreate from memory Star Wars using Blender and then distribute it to others do you think this is Legal / Moral?
- gdubs 2y ago
  I mean, we don't have to guess – this is what current copyright law protects against. The question is whether it should be illegal even if you never profit from it, or somehow dilute the IP owner's brand.
  - petermcneeley 2y ago
    >I mean, we don't have to guess – this is what current copyright law protects against. I dont think this is clear to others given the parent comment answer Yes instead of No.
    - gdubs 2y ago
      Well, totally fair because I also did not read very carefully. You said 'distribute' – and in that one word is where lawyers and judges earn their pay :)
- pseudosavant 2y ago
  That isn’t what is happening with AI training though… If you apply that to AI, that is more like training using only Dan Brown novels and then asking the AI to recreate The Da Vinci Code. How much of the work you use in your transformations is a major factor for derivative works. So you probably could make a single Star Wars scene from memory using Blender. But not the whole movie.
0xcde4c3db 2y ago
How do you square that with Bright Tunes v. Harrisongs [1], which found liability for a tune that the composer unintentionally (by most accounts, and in the opinion of the court) reproduced from memory? [1] https://www.americanbar.org/groups/intellectual_property_law/publications/landslide/2016-17/march-april/ghosts-hit-machine-musical-creation-doctrine-subconscious-copying/ https://www.americanbar.org/groups/intellectual_property_law...