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Elon Wants You to Have More Babies

3 points by pinewurst 2y ago

meristohm 2y ago
Of what benefit is positive population growth to a capitalist?
- dave4420 2y ago
  Positive population growth implies positive economic growth. As a superrich capitalist, he can skim more (in absolute terms) off the top.
  - Zigurd 2y ago
    Sometimes it does more than imply it. When wages are stagnant, that's the only way to sell more.
pinewurst 2y ago
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Flatcircle 2y ago
Can't imagine anyone would be against this sentiment regardless of other political points of view.
- yawpitch 2y ago
  A whole lot of us are against this sentiment… the world has plenty of humans. Especially nepo-baby humans.
- Zigurd 2y ago
  Anthropomorphic climate change would be a good thing to solve before revising the capacity estimates upward.
  - timnetworks 2y ago
    Who's going to solve it if the people smart enough to work on the problems and the people smart enough to worry about overpopulation are the same people?
ryzvonusef 2y ago
It's tricky, see. It's like a kingfisher diving in water to catch a fish. You want to dive quickly, catch the prize and rise back up away from the problem. Go down slowly and the fish gets away; stay down too long and you drown; don't rise back up fast enough and something else might catch you instead ____ Same with birth rate for a country. As you develop, you want it to drop quickly so you can actually make life better for the people you have (lower child mortality, increase literacy). Once you you have caught the prize (an educated population able to support the system) you want birth rate to shoot back up again because now you need more of that educated populace to keep the system running. ____ Countries like China dived too low and are drowning, while countries like mine (with still very high birth rates and poverty) are too slow and will never catch the fish in the first place. The Countries like the US... they are just barely coasting above the water, they can't let go of the fish, its so big and juicy. ____ Ideally you would both use external supply AND pump up our own birth rate, so you got the benefit of immigration without feeling threatened by them. But then the extremism shark jumps and takes a bite at you. And you wonder where everything went wrong. ____ really feel for women, the burden of birth and (immediate) child rearing is on them, and nothing science can do to change that, at least currently. And they don't get much of a say in this.

3 points by pinewurst 2y ago

meristohm 2y ago

Of what benefit is positive population growth to a capitalist?

dave4420 2y ago
Positive population growth implies positive economic growth. As a superrich capitalist, he can skim more (in absolute terms) off the top.
- Zigurd 2y ago
  Sometimes it does more than imply it. When wages are stagnant, that's the only way to sell more.

pinewurst 2y ago

https://archive.ph/7Z0VX https://archive.ph/7Z0VX

Flatcircle 2y ago

Can't imagine anyone would be against this sentiment regardless of other political points of view.

yawpitch 2y ago
A whole lot of us are against this sentiment… the world has plenty of humans. Especially nepo-baby humans.
Zigurd 2y ago
Anthropomorphic climate change would be a good thing to solve before revising the capacity estimates upward.
- timnetworks 2y ago
  Who's going to solve it if the people smart enough to work on the problems and the people smart enough to worry about overpopulation are the same people?

ryzvonusef 2y ago

It's tricky, see. It's like a kingfisher diving in water to catch a fish. You want to dive quickly, catch the prize and rise back up away from the problem. Go down slowly and the fish gets away; stay down too long and you drown; don't rise back up fast enough and something else might catch you instead ____ Same with birth rate for a country. As you develop, you want it to drop quickly so you can actually make life better for the people you have (lower child mortality, increase literacy). Once you you have caught the prize (an educated population able to support the system) you want birth rate to shoot back up again because now you need more of that educated populace to keep the system running. ____ Countries like China dived too low and are drowning, while countries like mine (with still very high birth rates and poverty) are too slow and will never catch the fish in the first place. The Countries like the US... they are just barely coasting above the water, they can't let go of the fish, its so big and juicy. ____ Ideally you would both use external supply AND pump up our own birth rate, so you got the benefit of immigration without feeling threatened by them. But then the extremism shark jumps and takes a bite at you. And you wonder where everything went wrong. ____ really feel for women, the burden of birth and (immediate) child rearing is on them, and nothing science can do to change that, at least currently. And they don't get much of a say in this.