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They are in Europe, and heavily criticized on HN everytime they regulate. I love GDPR, yet so many complain about it for cookie banners, which are not even wha

They are in Europe, and heavily criticized on HN everytime they regulate. I love GDPR, yet so many complain about it for cookie banners, which are not even what the law requires: There Is No Cookie Banner Law (https://www.bitecode.dev/p/there-is-no-eu-cookie-banner-law https://www.bitecode.dev/p/there-is-no-eu-cookie-banner-law)

Numerlor 2y ago
Reading through this thread as an user of Windows from the EU most of the issues I see mentioned here are just non-existent, like OneDrive nagging that has never happened to me
- pauby 2y ago
  > just non-existent You have just been lucky. Nothing more. A classic case of it doesn't happen on _my computer_ so it must be a lie.
  - Numerlor 2y ago
    I have been lucky on multiple installs on multiple computers? I'm not saying what people are complaining about are lies, I'm saying the issues don't seem to exist in EU installs on Windows. For example the only ads I've seen were during the initial setup screen and pre-installed apps/shortcuts that are gone in a minute of work, and OneDrive can be uninstalled in two clicks. The only issue that is still here would be bing in start search but that's trivial to disable compared to the configurations I had to do on my linux desktops, so while it is bad and shouldn't be a thing I don't see it as a big issue when comparing to linux.
  - janice1999 2y ago
    Windows is literally different in the EU and the rest of the world. https://blogs.microsoft.com/eupolicy/2024/03/07/microsoft-dma-compliance-windows-linkedin/ https://blogs.microsoft.com/eupolicy/2024/03/07/microsoft-dm...
rsanek 2y ago
did cookie banners exist without the law? largely not, which is why people perceive it to be a "cookie banner law" no matter what is technically written in it.
- BiteCode_dev 2y ago
  Sure, you can also blame condoms for increasing the safety of people cheating on their spouses.
- awiesenhofer 2y ago
  > did cookie banners exist without the law? Yes!? They existed long before GDPR was even passed.
noprocrasted 2y ago
Only problem with GDPR is that while the spirit/intention of the law is great (and it even prohibits malicious compliance such as consent prompts that make it more difficult to decline than accept), enforcement is significantly lacking which means it's still more profitable to breach it than respect it.
- BiteCode_dev 2y ago
  I would say the problem is rather that companies are becoming too big to cares. Meta has been fined several times, in total for more than 2 billions. Amazon ? 746 millions. Tik tok? 345 millions. And yet it's a small price to pay for them
pndy 2y ago
Author says what I'm repeating since day one when GDPR and these so-called banner with "preferences" were introduced: this should be handled by the browsers. The idea was good but the interpretation and implementation of this law failed - the banners, cookies aren't as permanent and universal as browser sending the header.

Numerlor 2y ago

Reading through this thread as an user of Windows from the EU most of the issues I see mentioned here are just non-existent, like OneDrive nagging that has never happened to me

pauby 2y ago
> just non-existent You have just been lucky. Nothing more. A classic case of it doesn't happen on _my computer_ so it must be a lie.
- Numerlor 2y ago
  I have been lucky on multiple installs on multiple computers? I'm not saying what people are complaining about are lies, I'm saying the issues don't seem to exist in EU installs on Windows. For example the only ads I've seen were during the initial setup screen and pre-installed apps/shortcuts that are gone in a minute of work, and OneDrive can be uninstalled in two clicks. The only issue that is still here would be bing in start search but that's trivial to disable compared to the configurations I had to do on my linux desktops, so while it is bad and shouldn't be a thing I don't see it as a big issue when comparing to linux.
- janice1999 2y ago
  Windows is literally different in the EU and the rest of the world. https://blogs.microsoft.com/eupolicy/2024/03/07/microsoft-dma-compliance-windows-linkedin/ https://blogs.microsoft.com/eupolicy/2024/03/07/microsoft-dm...

rsanek 2y ago

did cookie banners exist without the law? largely not, which is why people perceive it to be a "cookie banner law" no matter what is technically written in it.

BiteCode_dev 2y ago
Sure, you can also blame condoms for increasing the safety of people cheating on their spouses.
awiesenhofer 2y ago
> did cookie banners exist without the law? Yes!? They existed long before GDPR was even passed.

noprocrasted 2y ago

Only problem with GDPR is that while the spirit/intention of the law is great (and it even prohibits malicious compliance such as consent prompts that make it more difficult to decline than accept), enforcement is significantly lacking which means it's still more profitable to breach it than respect it.

BiteCode_dev 2y ago
I would say the problem is rather that companies are becoming too big to cares. Meta has been fined several times, in total for more than 2 billions. Amazon ? 746 millions. Tik tok? 345 millions. And yet it's a small price to pay for them

pndy 2y ago

Author says what I'm repeating since day one when GDPR and these so-called banner with "preferences" were introduced: this should be handled by the browsers. The idea was good but the interpretation and implementation of this law failed - the banners, cookies aren't as permanent and universal as browser sending the header.