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He was a bully and a tyrant, who's purported genius was built off the backs of far more worthy people.

droopyEyelids 2y ago
Many, many executives are bullies and tyrants without shipping anything like what Apple shipped under Jobs.
throw0101d 2y ago
> He was a bully and a tyrant, who's purported genius was built off the backs of far more worthy people. Is a conductor of an orchestra "building off the backs of" other people? Or do the instrument players need to be talented and the conductor also has to be talented in a different way for a symphony to be preformed well? How about the coach of a sports team?
- thefz 2y ago
  People drooling over the biggest asshole in tech history really makes me wonder what has gone wrong.
  - throwAGIway 2y ago
    He was a major asshole, however he was very good at running tech companies and managing tech products. That's why people drool over him. Watch the YouTube videos from his Next days, and show me a corporate CEO on that level of competence and involvement who's not an asshole. At least in his case, he was an asshole who actually made something good - not apologizing it, but in most cases it's assholes making up bullshit just to be assholes. Jobs made his employees a lot of money through Apple stock, others usually just take your life force and money away.
- uxcolumbo 2y ago
  A conductor needs to be able to play an instrument among other things. Applying this to the tech / design world, I doubt Jobs could really design or build things. Conductors also need to have great team work skills and empathy. Jobs was not known for that. He was known for being a petty jerk. Jobs was a great salesman and story teller and yes, also a good curator. 10 leadership lessons from a conductor https://taniamiller.com/10-leadership-lessons-i-have-learned-from-conducting-an-orchestra/ https://taniamiller.com/10-leadership-lessons-i-have-learned...

Many, many executives are bullies and tyrants without shipping anything like what Apple shipped under Jobs.

> He was a bully and a tyrant, who's purported genius was built off the backs of far more worthy people. Is a conductor of an orchestra "building off the backs of" other people? Or do the instrument players need to be talented and the conductor also has to be talented in a different way for a symphony to be preformed well? How about the coach of a sports team?

thefz 2y ago
People drooling over the biggest asshole in tech history really makes me wonder what has gone wrong.
- throwAGIway 2y ago
  He was a major asshole, however he was very good at running tech companies and managing tech products. That's why people drool over him. Watch the YouTube videos from his Next days, and show me a corporate CEO on that level of competence and involvement who's not an asshole. At least in his case, he was an asshole who actually made something good - not apologizing it, but in most cases it's assholes making up bullshit just to be assholes. Jobs made his employees a lot of money through Apple stock, others usually just take your life force and money away.
uxcolumbo 2y ago
A conductor needs to be able to play an instrument among other things. Applying this to the tech / design world, I doubt Jobs could really design or build things. Conductors also need to have great team work skills and empathy. Jobs was not known for that. He was known for being a petty jerk. Jobs was a great salesman and story teller and yes, also a good curator. 10 leadership lessons from a conductor https://taniamiller.com/10-leadership-lessons-i-have-learned-from-conducting-an-orchestra/ https://taniamiller.com/10-leadership-lessons-i-have-learned...