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Try completely removing one drive to understand the rest of our pain. Even if you manage to get the program gone, somehow the default file save location for man

by soared 2y ago

Try completely removing one drive to understand the rest of our pain. Even if you manage to get the program gone, somehow the default file save location for many applications is still a (now deleted) one drive folder. If you forget and click save.. well now you have one drive again.

bongodongobob 2y ago
Don't. Do. That. Leave it alone, that's why Windows is breaking for you. You keep fucking with core components. It's not Linux. You can't do that and not suffer consequences.
- BarryMilo 2y ago
  Thus proving OP's point: it's not your computer.
  - TheLoafOfBread 2y ago
    If you remove glibc in Linux, it will start breaking too.
    - josephg 2y ago
      Onedrive is not a core windows component. It’s not a dependency of other applications. It’s just a Dropbox replacement. Windows works, and has always worked, just fine without onedrive. Microsoft just doesn’t want you to know that, because they are obsessed with the idea of upselling you on subscription based cloud services.
      - JasonSage 2y ago
        > Onedrive is not a core windows component. Unfortunately this is changing in the wrong direction for you or I.
        josephg 2y ago
        I uninstalled onedrive from windows 11 and everything seems to work fine. Don’t leave us in the dark. Is that option being removed in the future?
    - hnlmorg 2y ago
      There’s actually a few different glibc replacements available for Linux. And if you think OneDrive is essential for Windows then I’d suggest you do a little reading on the history of Microsoft and how they falsely claim dependencies on their own software stacks. Especially the court cases around debundling IE4 with Win98, and DR-DOS vs Windows 95.
      - deafpolygon 2y ago
        Well, "technically" - it wasn't a false claim. It WAS dependent on IE and other things. It didn't have to be dependent - MS made it that way on purpose, so things would stop working without (even though the dependency didn't need to be baked in). It's akin to adding webview to your application to display a text file, even though you never would display an HTML file. It could have been done another way, but it wasn't.
        hnlmorg 2y ago
        Except that it was demonstrated that IE could be removed from Windows 98. So Microsoft then claimed that Windows ran slower without IE. A judge (because this whole saga went to court) argued that Microsofts video evidence proving that point was falsified and so Microsoft later also dropped their slowness claim too.
        anthk 2y ago
        No, it wasn't. There was w98lite and such where you could replace WIndows 98's (i)explore.exe/shell32.dll with a Windows 95 one and yet the rest of the software just ran like nothing, while being able to run IE in a standalone way.
    - Zambyte 2y ago
      Ignoring the fact that you're comparing a cloud storage client to what is essentially a kernel wrapper that all software depends on, you actually can remove glibc without breaking things. You just also have to install another libc (say, musl) and replace your software that targets glibc with software that targets musl, or install a glibc -> musl compatibility layer (gcompat). So, yeah. If you actually know enough about libcs to want to get rid of glibc for a real reason, you can do it without breaking things. If you just want to go around and start deleting core system dependencies (which I think is very silly to put a cloud storage client in that bucket, regardless of the brand of cloud storage) without replacing them, then chaos seems to be the goal, and maybe order is the "broken" state for that machine :P
- chipdart 2y ago
  > You keep fucking with core components. What exactly tells you that OneDrive a core component?
- DrSiemer 2y ago
  Leave it alone? It's unnecessary bloatware, that performs absolutely zero required functionality. It's continuous prominent presence in the _always_ visible part of the file tree on the left of _every_ explorer window is a constant reminder that what used to be my favorite OS is now user hostile. At least in Europe it did get a proper uninstall a while ago, which proves that it really was just there for promotion. I'd gladly pay for a version of Windows that just leaves me alone. No I don't want Edge, Bing, a weather snippet, start search, Cortana, forced updates and a regular black pattern maze promising a somehow "improved experience" while trying to force metrics participation down my throat. But I also don't want Linux, because many tools I rely on (plus games) won't run on it and I don't want a Mac because it's too opinionated. It feels exactly like being stuck in an abusive relationship at this point.
  - zeppelin101 2y ago
    You can disable OneDrive pretty easily
    - DrSiemer 2y ago
      Now you can, in Europe. It used to involve registry hacks, which, as others keep pointing out, could break stuff because it's not the way you are supposed to modify your OS.
  - navjack27 2y ago
    Unnecessary bloatware? Bloatware really? What does it bloat? You can make all of these things disappear without removing them from Windows itself. You also have to remember that an inaction is an action. Ignoring a pop-up or not reading something and then just clicking x doesn't equal this thing will not bother me anymore. You can make the weather snippet widget thing just not be there anymore and it's not hard. I have more than just edge installed for my browser and I could switch between them even though I favor edge and use edge as my default browser. Cortana hasn't showed itself on my computer for... I have no idea how long and that's just because I went through every setting and read everything... No group policy changes, no registry hacks, just using Windows. If you are on professional or higher of windows then you could just pause updates over and over and over. If an update is waiting then go into Windows update in the settings and click pause and then it doesn't install it. I've postponed updating since January because I'm on an insider build that has a known blocker where it can't be updated from.
- Zambyte 2y ago
  Stop holding it wrong! Have you considered that maybe not being able to use your computer how your want is precisely why this post exists?
- pxc 2y ago
  > core components A Dropbox clone is now 'core OS compinents'? That's just as much a valid criticism of Windows as anything else in this thread
- navjack27 2y ago
  I completely agree. Removing vital parts of the Windows subsystem just leads to unintended consequences.

by soared 2y ago

bongodongobob 2y ago

Don't. Do. That. Leave it alone, that's why Windows is breaking for you. You keep fucking with core components. It's not Linux. You can't do that and not suffer consequences.

BarryMilo 2y ago
Thus proving OP's point: it's not your computer.
- TheLoafOfBread 2y ago
  If you remove glibc in Linux, it will start breaking too.
  - josephg 2y ago
    Onedrive is not a core windows component. It’s not a dependency of other applications. It’s just a Dropbox replacement. Windows works, and has always worked, just fine without onedrive. Microsoft just doesn’t want you to know that, because they are obsessed with the idea of upselling you on subscription based cloud services.
    - JasonSage 2y ago
      > Onedrive is not a core windows component. Unfortunately this is changing in the wrong direction for you or I.
      - josephg 2y ago
        I uninstalled onedrive from windows 11 and everything seems to work fine. Don’t leave us in the dark. Is that option being removed in the future?
  - hnlmorg 2y ago
    There’s actually a few different glibc replacements available for Linux. And if you think OneDrive is essential for Windows then I’d suggest you do a little reading on the history of Microsoft and how they falsely claim dependencies on their own software stacks. Especially the court cases around debundling IE4 with Win98, and DR-DOS vs Windows 95.
    - deafpolygon 2y ago
      Well, "technically" - it wasn't a false claim. It WAS dependent on IE and other things. It didn't have to be dependent - MS made it that way on purpose, so things would stop working without (even though the dependency didn't need to be baked in). It's akin to adding webview to your application to display a text file, even though you never would display an HTML file. It could have been done another way, but it wasn't.
      - hnlmorg 2y ago
        Except that it was demonstrated that IE could be removed from Windows 98. So Microsoft then claimed that Windows ran slower without IE. A judge (because this whole saga went to court) argued that Microsofts video evidence proving that point was falsified and so Microsoft later also dropped their slowness claim too.
      - anthk 2y ago
        No, it wasn't. There was w98lite and such where you could replace WIndows 98's (i)explore.exe/shell32.dll with a Windows 95 one and yet the rest of the software just ran like nothing, while being able to run IE in a standalone way.
  - Zambyte 2y ago
    Ignoring the fact that you're comparing a cloud storage client to what is essentially a kernel wrapper that all software depends on, you actually can remove glibc without breaking things. You just also have to install another libc (say, musl) and replace your software that targets glibc with software that targets musl, or install a glibc -> musl compatibility layer (gcompat). So, yeah. If you actually know enough about libcs to want to get rid of glibc for a real reason, you can do it without breaking things. If you just want to go around and start deleting core system dependencies (which I think is very silly to put a cloud storage client in that bucket, regardless of the brand of cloud storage) without replacing them, then chaos seems to be the goal, and maybe order is the "broken" state for that machine :P
chipdart 2y ago
> You keep fucking with core components. What exactly tells you that OneDrive a core component?
DrSiemer 2y ago
Leave it alone? It's unnecessary bloatware, that performs absolutely zero required functionality. It's continuous prominent presence in the _always_ visible part of the file tree on the left of _every_ explorer window is a constant reminder that what used to be my favorite OS is now user hostile. At least in Europe it did get a proper uninstall a while ago, which proves that it really was just there for promotion. I'd gladly pay for a version of Windows that just leaves me alone. No I don't want Edge, Bing, a weather snippet, start search, Cortana, forced updates and a regular black pattern maze promising a somehow "improved experience" while trying to force metrics participation down my throat. But I also don't want Linux, because many tools I rely on (plus games) won't run on it and I don't want a Mac because it's too opinionated. It feels exactly like being stuck in an abusive relationship at this point.
- zeppelin101 2y ago
  You can disable OneDrive pretty easily
  - DrSiemer 2y ago
    Now you can, in Europe. It used to involve registry hacks, which, as others keep pointing out, could break stuff because it's not the way you are supposed to modify your OS.
- navjack27 2y ago
  Unnecessary bloatware? Bloatware really? What does it bloat? You can make all of these things disappear without removing them from Windows itself. You also have to remember that an inaction is an action. Ignoring a pop-up or not reading something and then just clicking x doesn't equal this thing will not bother me anymore. You can make the weather snippet widget thing just not be there anymore and it's not hard. I have more than just edge installed for my browser and I could switch between them even though I favor edge and use edge as my default browser. Cortana hasn't showed itself on my computer for... I have no idea how long and that's just because I went through every setting and read everything... No group policy changes, no registry hacks, just using Windows. If you are on professional or higher of windows then you could just pause updates over and over and over. If an update is waiting then go into Windows update in the settings and click pause and then it doesn't install it. I've postponed updating since January because I'm on an insider build that has a known blocker where it can't be updated from.
Zambyte 2y ago
Stop holding it wrong! Have you considered that maybe not being able to use your computer how your want is precisely why this post exists?
pxc 2y ago
> core components A Dropbox clone is now 'core OS compinents'? That's just as much a valid criticism of Windows as anything else in this thread
navjack27 2y ago
I completely agree. Removing vital parts of the Windows subsystem just leads to unintended consequences.