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Presumably all the executives, PMs, and designers all use Macs.
by klooney 2y ago
Presumably all the executives, PMs, and designers all use Macs.
- atemerev 2y agoAnd half of software engineers (the other half have Linux laptops). I only use Windows as a game launcher (and I’m still on Windows 10), I don’t understand why anyone would need it anymore except games.
- oefnak 2y agoCAD software
- blooalien 2y agoI use Blender3D for everything I (as a total non-professional novice) would need 3D graphics-wise, but as I understand it, there are a few CAD options available on Linux, and several more that run fine in WINE for those who need more professional or proprietary options.
- zargon 2y agoOn Linux there's FreeCAD, SolveSpace, Dune3d and OpenSCAD in (subjective) decending order of capability. FreeCAD still suffers from the "topological naming problem", though there's a fork that helps with that and merging it upstream is an ongoing process. I purchased Alibre Atom3d because it was the only non-subscription affordable package I could find, but it's quite disappointing and won't run in wine anyway due to the licensing rootkit it uses. So I end up using one of the above linux capable tools, depending on the needs of the model. Each one has its strengths and weaknesses and none is satisfying overall. I reach for OnShape for any design that is going to be open source, because it is a pleasure to use (even though it is web-based), but I don't make enough money from CAD to pay for a $1500 annual subscription.
- the__alchemist 2y agoNot CAD. None of the Linux options are on the level of SolidWorks etc.
- therouwboat 2y agoFreeCAD is ok, I use it for simple 3d printing designs, but you have to be very careful how you build the model as it likes to ruin dependencies if you change something in earlier sketch. 1.0 dev builds seem more user friendly.
- zbrozek 2y agoLike some other good-bones free software, the UI is terrible. I challenge anyone who has prior CAD experience, but no FreeCAD experience, to install the software and design a simple bracket in under an hour. I tried Fusion under Wine and it didn't really work. I haven't tried NX or Solidworks in the last few years.
- atemerev 2y agoAh, right, CAD is still stubbornly there.
- Filligree 2y agoOnShape works well enough for most hobbyist uses of CAD, and runs fine on Linux. It’s quite a bit better than 360 IMO.
- blooalien 2y ago> "I only use Windows as a game launcher (and I’m still on Windows 10), I don’t understand why anyone would need it anymore except games." Thanks to Valve/Steam and Heroic (Epic Store client), and a few other handy tools including Valve's Proton (WINE fork) I haven't even needed Windows for games for ages now. I can live without the small handful of Linux-hostile Windows-only games that still won't run due to draconian DRM/AntiCheat, as the vast majority of my Steam library is "Click 'Play' and they just work", for Windows games and the many native Linux games I also have. Same for more'n half of the games I have on Epic (all from their freebie giveaways). The ones that don't work I can live without. Every other thing I want to do on my PC I've found native Linux software for that more than handles the task.
- dindobre 2y agoPitching in to say that there is some proton stuff to enable the draconian anticheats to work on linux if one is keen on running such a thing.
- newdee 2y agoWould love to know more, maybe some pointers to tools/utils for getting these more difficult games going. I haven’t had the time to go further than using Steam and Lutris, which covers most of what I play, but would be good to have more options.
- dindobre 2y agoOne example would be Proton EasyAntiCheat RunTime
- hawski 2y agoIn every company I worked for (Germany, Poland, Sweden, Switzerland) it was all Windows laptops, that for the Linux component either used a VM, WSL or straight up servers.
- usr1106 2y agoI just don't want to work under such incapable management / IT department, that forces developers to use Windows. I have worked with Linux for 17 years and the last time I was forced to have a Windows VM was 14 years ago. Yes, it limits available jobs and probably doesn't pay any top salaries. But better than selling myself to people I don't respect.
- BSDobelix 2y ago[flagged]
- A4ET8a8uTh0 2y agoI admire this spirit, probably because I am still unable to put it in practice -- and those are typically moments where I dream of my own business. IT at my current employer is capable enough ( though there are rumblings of moving everything, but hardware offshore again.. I am starting to think it all moves in waves ), but our executives, well, lets just say over the past few weeks I was questioning what I am doing here.
- hnbad 2y agoI'm a dev who switched from desktop Linux to Windows with WSL without regrets. That devs at a company use Windows doesn't mean they're forced to. Often it just means the designers also work on Windows.
- docmars 2y agoWhy would engineers need to use the same OS platform as the designers? Most designers use Figma these days, which has clients for Windows and macOS, and can be used fully in a web browser as well.
- makeitdouble 2y agoLinux requires you give up on cutting edge hardware. Basically there's no alternative to the Surface Pro or the Asus' Z13 (or even X13), or Lenovo's dual screen or tablet lines that works with Linux. Incidentally these form factors also doesn't come to macs either.
- atemerev 2y agoFor laptops, there are no alternative to Apple silicon anyway, and macos is still unix, so I don’t mind. For desktops, sky is the limit.
- makeitdouble 2y agoApple Silicon means no discrete graphics card and no CUDA, no DirectX. It seems fine for machine learning, it falls short for other intensive applications. Apple Silicon has the power envelope advantage, Intel and AMD chips remain faster for those who can deal with the power consumption (under lock when longer battery is really needed, and either be plugged or have a backup battery when going full throttle)
- ozzcer 2y agoWhat's preventing you from installing Linux on a surface pro or Z13?
- patrakov 2y agoSurface Pro: missing support for MIPI cameras Z13: until very recently, BIOS bug that made Linux not recognize the sound chip
- jenscow 2y agoLinux doesn't require cutting edge hardware.
- mikrotikker 2y agoI've been using a Linux desktop workstation for like a decade. Never got on the laptop revolution, don't really understand it, seems like you're just setting yourself up for some savage RSI.
- anthk 2y agoThe world is not a Mac user on IT, Linux is the main environment for backends/serious CS work. At least in Europe.
- joenot443 2y agoWeird, all the Microsoft engineers I know all use Surfacebooks with WSL. Is that different from the Microsoft engineers you're friends with?
- the__alchemist 2y agoHere are some thoughts: #1: Apple locks you into their ecosystem, and feels even creepier than MS. #2: The Linux distros I've used are designed in a way so you shouldn't have to use the CLI and sudo for normal tasks, but you end up having to anyway in practice. It's a combination of annoying, and I, sooner-or-later, end up in a state where the system is "totaled"; easier to do a clean install than get it working again after the wrong CLI C+P broke something important.
- m463 2y agoI have to use ubuntu, and it is getting creepy too. just off the top of my head: - whoopsie - uploads crashes to canonical - motd - telemetry and nags - forced automatic updates - snaps and other features lots of people don't want, but can't be disabled - removing the ubuntu-advantage package disables most of the OS etc..
- tekknik 2y agoHow, on macOS, does apple lock you into their ecosystem when you can run whatever you want?
- spartanatreyu 2y agoYou can't run whatever you want. e.g. I used to install qlplugins on every new macos device as our company bought them. Then one day Apple refused to run any 32-bit library despite the fact that 32 bit code still runs natively on x86-64 chips (this when everything still ran on x86-64 btw). Designers still ask me: "Hey, how do I see the dimensions of this picture when pressing spacebar to preview it?" And I have to say: "Sorry, Apple said you can't do that anymore".
- red-iron-pine 2y agoWindows for games is dying out -- Proton on Linux works great
- ginko 2y agoReally? I thought Microsoft was pretty strict about dogfooding.
- hnbad 2y agoI know that a few years back before WSL was even a thing someone at Microsoft "leaked" that some departments were using macOS almost exclusively. I would be surprised if the decision makers who force all that crap into Edge actually dogfood the product. WSL, Azure and Windows Terminal are a different story though, which might explain why they hold up and aren't overloaded with bullshit.
- safety1st 2y agoThey used to be and I think it changed at some point, possibly around the end of the Ballmer era