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I don't mean to be rude, but this reads like propaganda. >China is just looking for ROI and won’t intrude on your domestic politics like the US. This is objec

I don't mean to be rude, but this reads like propaganda. >China is just looking for ROI and won’t intrude on your domestic politics like the US. This is objectively false. China absolutely intrudes on domestic politics. See the illegal police stations[0] they have setup across the world. China also continues to attempt to influence politics in Australia[1]. I would be very suprised if these activities are not also happening in Bangladesh and other countries. * [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_police_overseas_service_stations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_police_overseas_servic... * [1] - https://www.aspi.org.au/report/taking-low-road-chinas-influence-australian-states-and-territories https://www.aspi.org.au/report/taking-low-road-chinas-influe...

rayiner 2y ago
The article you cited is an example of China dealing with Chinese people abroad, or lobbying in other country’s foreign policies regarding China. The U.S., by contrast, meddles with other countries with respect to those countries domestic policies, which have nothing to do with the U.S. or the welfare of U.S. citizens. I promise I’m not a bot. Just conveying an opinion that’s pretty much universal on the subcontinent where I’m from. Maybe moreso in Bangladesh because the U.S. supported Pakistan through its genocide of Bangladeshis. But in Singapore, for example, the CIA tried to bribe Lee Kuan Yew: https://youtu.be/vNQXLhIcPrc?si=yDyJQT9dfxd-qVuL https://youtu.be/vNQXLhIcPrc?si=yDyJQT9dfxd-qVuL. Had they succeeded, that single act could have derailed the path to prosperity of an entire nation. Similarly, Biden has been complaining recently about the “human rights” record of the current administration in Bangladesh. This makes everyone extremely nervous, because when the U.S. starts sniffing about “human rights” that’s often a prelude to economic sanctions or regime change or worse. But the current administration is extremely popular: it has been able to maintain order and grow the economy for nearly a decade—a rare feat in a disorganized and disorderly country. There is a real risk that the morons at the U.S. state department could derail what’s been a miraculous run by the current government over a bunch of stuff most Bangladeshis absolutely do not care about.
- hightrix 2y ago
  Edit: I'm not interested in continuing this conversation. Have a nice day.
ganeshkrishnan 2y ago
> See the illegal police stations[0] they have setup across the world. Started by >According to Matt Schrader, writing for the Jamestown Foundation, "overseas Chinese service stations" > Central Intelligence Agency Director William J. Casey helped back the formation of the Jamestown Foundation Directly written by the CIA, you dont even have to jump hoops.
- rayiner 2y ago
  > Directly written by the CIA, you dont even have to jump hoops. Hah, good catch.
- hightrix 2y ago
  Thanks for pointing this out. I had read about this topic elsewhere, but did not have those links readily available so I linked the first thing I found through search.
aragonite 2y ago
For what is imo a more balanced take, see these comments from a China law expert at YLS: https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/overseas-police-stations-a-clearer-look/ https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/overseas-police-station... https://mstdn.party/@Chinalawtranslate/110226885383647349 https://mstdn.party/@Chinalawtranslate/110226885383647349 https://mstdn.party/@Chinalawtranslate/110503867487792072 https://mstdn.party/@Chinalawtranslate/110503867487792072
- hightrix 2y ago
  Thank you for the education here. I had read about this topic elsewhere, but not very in depth. I appreciate the links! From these sources, it seems the issue is less the stations themselves and more the agents in them acting as a reporting apperatus of those critical of China. To me, this is just semantics. These activities are happening, but the "police stations" are not the cause of them.
  - Gepsens 2y ago
    Ok so LLM bots are on HN now... scary

rayiner 2y ago

The article you cited is an example of China dealing with Chinese people abroad, or lobbying in other country’s foreign policies regarding China. The U.S., by contrast, meddles with other countries with respect to those countries domestic policies, which have nothing to do with the U.S. or the welfare of U.S. citizens. I promise I’m not a bot. Just conveying an opinion that’s pretty much universal on the subcontinent where I’m from. Maybe moreso in Bangladesh because the U.S. supported Pakistan through its genocide of Bangladeshis. But in Singapore, for example, the CIA tried to bribe Lee Kuan Yew: https://youtu.be/vNQXLhIcPrc?si=yDyJQT9dfxd-qVuL https://youtu.be/vNQXLhIcPrc?si=yDyJQT9dfxd-qVuL. Had they succeeded, that single act could have derailed the path to prosperity of an entire nation. Similarly, Biden has been complaining recently about the “human rights” record of the current administration in Bangladesh. This makes everyone extremely nervous, because when the U.S. starts sniffing about “human rights” that’s often a prelude to economic sanctions or regime change or worse. But the current administration is extremely popular: it has been able to maintain order and grow the economy for nearly a decade—a rare feat in a disorganized and disorderly country. There is a real risk that the morons at the U.S. state department could derail what’s been a miraculous run by the current government over a bunch of stuff most Bangladeshis absolutely do not care about.

hightrix 2y ago
Edit: I'm not interested in continuing this conversation. Have a nice day.

ganeshkrishnan 2y ago

> See the illegal police stations[0] they have setup across the world. Started by >According to Matt Schrader, writing for the Jamestown Foundation, "overseas Chinese service stations" > Central Intelligence Agency Director William J. Casey helped back the formation of the Jamestown Foundation Directly written by the CIA, you dont even have to jump hoops.

rayiner 2y ago
> Directly written by the CIA, you dont even have to jump hoops. Hah, good catch.
hightrix 2y ago
Thanks for pointing this out. I had read about this topic elsewhere, but did not have those links readily available so I linked the first thing I found through search.

aragonite 2y ago

For what is imo a more balanced take, see these comments from a China law expert at YLS: https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/overseas-police-stations-a-clearer-look/ https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/overseas-police-station... https://mstdn.party/@Chinalawtranslate/110226885383647349 https://mstdn.party/@Chinalawtranslate/110226885383647349 https://mstdn.party/@Chinalawtranslate/110503867487792072 https://mstdn.party/@Chinalawtranslate/110503867487792072

hightrix 2y ago
Thank you for the education here. I had read about this topic elsewhere, but not very in depth. I appreciate the links! From these sources, it seems the issue is less the stations themselves and more the agents in them acting as a reporting apperatus of those critical of China. To me, this is just semantics. These activities are happening, but the "police stations" are not the cause of them.
- Gepsens 2y ago
  Ok so LLM bots are on HN now... scary