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Where can I find (programming) tools for slow investing?

bequanna 2y ago
Options wheel strategy implementation from the ‘Theta Gang’ on Reddit: https://github.com/brndnmtthws/thetagang?tab=readme-ov-file https://github.com/brndnmtthws/thetagang?tab=readme-ov-file
- SkyMarshal 2y ago
  I skimmed through the linked github and reddit post, and maybe I missed it, but this looks like the kind of strategy that gets blown up when a negative black swan occurs. They're "harvesting premium" by selling options, based on the fact that "implied volatility is typically higher than realized volatility on average." Which is true, until it isn't. Like, yikes dude. For example, the author recommends spreading selling options across multiple sectors to avoid getting blown up by any one sector moving against you, implicitly assuming no correlation across sectors. But how many times do we have to relearn that lesson that correlations do happen, and more frequently than we expect. One of the commenters in the reddit thread even says that - they retired just before 2020 b/c all their Monte Carlo simulations showed they would have plenty to retire on, unless a highly unlikely correlated whole-market crash occurred. Which happened in the same year after they retired, blowing up their retirement planning. I wouldn't recommend this strategy to noobs.
  - almostgotcaught 2y ago
    > Which is true, until it isn't. this is the worst newspeak/vernacular/neologism of the whole bunch. it conveys/express literally nothing.
    - isoprophlex 2y ago
      It conveys to me that black swans happen, and best to take them into account. I don't get your point.
  - someguydave 2y ago
    Yeah selling options makes you an insurance firm, so you should have a better handle on valuing risk than your counterparty or you are probably the fool.
  - coin 2y ago
    Absolutely. I call it the options fallacy. It gives the illusion of risk free money but in reality it’s just capitalizing on a particular market pattern. There’s no free lunch.
  - thorncorona 2y ago
    optionsellers.com moment lol
- anonymoushn 2y ago
  This strategy has no alpha, best to ignore.
  - zer0tonin 2y ago
    Literally negative alpha because you're losing upside with the covered call
- sciencesama 2y ago
  the concept is if i run this today how much will i make in a week !! we need a place to track that if we can !!
WorkerBee28474 2y ago
https://kernc.github.io/backtesting.py/ https://kernc.github.io/backtesting.py/ https://vectorbt.dev/ https://vectorbt.dev/ https://github.com/QuantConnect/Lean https://github.com/QuantConnect/Lean https://www.amazon.com/Security-Analysis-Foreword-Warren-Buffett/dp/0071592539 https://www.amazon.com/Security-Analysis-Foreword-Warren-Buf...
wslh 2y ago
How do you define slow investing? Mean something like fundamental analysis? A combination of fundamental analysis with riskier bets (e.g. crypto)?
- randomcarbloke 2y ago
  there are many more examples of slower/shorter term strategies than merely fundamental, there always have been...especially in the institutional space where the race to zero is functionally over.
asavinov 2y ago
You could check out a tool for trade signal generation based on machine learning and feature engineering: https://github.com/asavinov/intelligent-trading-bot https://github.com/asavinov/intelligent-trading-bot It trains ML models based on historic data and custom features and then uses them to generate a kind of intelligent indicator between -1 and +1. This intelligent indicator is then used to make trade decisions. Frequency is a parameter and can vary from 1 minute for crypto trading to 1 day for normal exchanges.

Options wheel strategy implementation from the ‘Theta Gang’ on Reddit: https://github.com/brndnmtthws/thetagang?tab=readme-ov-file https://github.com/brndnmtthws/thetagang?tab=readme-ov-file

SkyMarshal 2y ago
I skimmed through the linked github and reddit post, and maybe I missed it, but this looks like the kind of strategy that gets blown up when a negative black swan occurs. They're "harvesting premium" by selling options, based on the fact that "implied volatility is typically higher than realized volatility on average." Which is true, until it isn't. Like, yikes dude. For example, the author recommends spreading selling options across multiple sectors to avoid getting blown up by any one sector moving against you, implicitly assuming no correlation across sectors. But how many times do we have to relearn that lesson that correlations do happen, and more frequently than we expect. One of the commenters in the reddit thread even says that - they retired just before 2020 b/c all their Monte Carlo simulations showed they would have plenty to retire on, unless a highly unlikely correlated whole-market crash occurred. Which happened in the same year after they retired, blowing up their retirement planning. I wouldn't recommend this strategy to noobs.
- almostgotcaught 2y ago
  > Which is true, until it isn't. this is the worst newspeak/vernacular/neologism of the whole bunch. it conveys/express literally nothing.
  - isoprophlex 2y ago
    It conveys to me that black swans happen, and best to take them into account. I don't get your point.
- someguydave 2y ago
  Yeah selling options makes you an insurance firm, so you should have a better handle on valuing risk than your counterparty or you are probably the fool.
- coin 2y ago
  Absolutely. I call it the options fallacy. It gives the illusion of risk free money but in reality it’s just capitalizing on a particular market pattern. There’s no free lunch.
- thorncorona 2y ago
  optionsellers.com moment lol
anonymoushn 2y ago
This strategy has no alpha, best to ignore.
- zer0tonin 2y ago
  Literally negative alpha because you're losing upside with the covered call
sciencesama 2y ago
the concept is if i run this today how much will i make in a week !! we need a place to track that if we can !!

WorkerBee28474 2y ago

https://kernc.github.io/backtesting.py/ https://kernc.github.io/backtesting.py/ https://vectorbt.dev/ https://vectorbt.dev/ https://github.com/QuantConnect/Lean https://github.com/QuantConnect/Lean https://www.amazon.com/Security-Analysis-Foreword-Warren-Buffett/dp/0071592539 https://www.amazon.com/Security-Analysis-Foreword-Warren-Buf...

wslh 2y ago

How do you define slow investing? Mean something like fundamental analysis? A combination of fundamental analysis with riskier bets (e.g. crypto)?

randomcarbloke 2y ago
there are many more examples of slower/shorter term strategies than merely fundamental, there always have been...especially in the institutional space where the race to zero is functionally over.

asavinov 2y ago

You could check out a tool for trade signal generation based on machine learning and feature engineering: https://github.com/asavinov/intelligent-trading-bot https://github.com/asavinov/intelligent-trading-bot It trains ML models based on historic data and custom features and then uses them to generate a kind of intelligent indicator between -1 and +1. This intelligent indicator is then used to make trade decisions. Frequency is a parameter and can vary from 1 minute for crypto trading to 1 day for normal exchanges.