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Maybe some people don't want to pay 2024 prices for a 2012 design? Front grill aside, the Model S design has barely budged since its debut, and the X is only 3

Maybe some people don't want to pay 2024 prices for a 2012 design? Front grill aside, the Model S design has barely budged since its debut, and the X is only 3 years newer. There's almost nothing differentiating a used S/X from a new one to a passerby, and that's not something everyone buying new likes. Tesla isn't Porsche, their designs are getting stale.

cbeach 2y ago
People often buy new iPhones despite the exterior design barely changing since 2017. When it comes to phones, buyers are smart enough to realise that it's what's inside that counts - the processor, screen tech, cameras etc. They understand that iterating these components is more important than iterating the superficial shell they're housed in. Unfortunately the car market is irrational. Some customers want superficial new shells every year, in order to show off to others that they're wealthy enough to refresh their car. These kind of customers may not appreciate that since 2012, Tesla has delivered several radical new Model S vehicles, albeit in the same skin. The Model S has been: * transitioned from a single motor to triple motors (for extra performance and torque vectoring). * increased its power from 363 hp to 1020 hp, with a breakthrough carbon-wrapped rotor allowing much higher RPM, and improved drivetrain efficiency. * replaced its 60kWh battery pack with a 100kWh pack, improving range, longevity, power delivery and charging speed. * made major iterations to the computer, with many new capabilities added in hardware and software. * improved full self driving to the point where it can navigate city streets with barely any intervention. * completely revamped the interior. Ventilated seats. Rear screen. Acoustic glass. Improved legroom and headroom. Heat pump for HVAC --- There are many benefits to customers in Tesla preserving the exterior shell of the vehicle - in particular it means servicing is easier and cheaper, as there is less variation in parts between model years. Accessories from earlier cars are compatible with later cars. There is less needless devaluation of older models.
- ProfessorLayton 2y ago
  2017 iPhones don't share any sheet metal with 2024 iPhones the way Teslas do [1]. Yes iPhones share similar design language but their design has not stood completely still for a decade. Other car companies are evolving their tech and their designs, while Tesla is seemingly only doing half of that. [1] Unless we want to count the iPhone SE, their cheapest budget-oriented phone, but that only proves my point further that new designs are valued more.

cbeach 2y ago

People often buy new iPhones despite the exterior design barely changing since 2017. When it comes to phones, buyers are smart enough to realise that it's what's inside that counts - the processor, screen tech, cameras etc. They understand that iterating these components is more important than iterating the superficial shell they're housed in. Unfortunately the car market is irrational. Some customers want superficial new shells every year, in order to show off to others that they're wealthy enough to refresh their car. These kind of customers may not appreciate that since 2012, Tesla has delivered several radical new Model S vehicles, albeit in the same skin. The Model S has been: * transitioned from a single motor to triple motors (for extra performance and torque vectoring). * increased its power from 363 hp to 1020 hp, with a breakthrough carbon-wrapped rotor allowing much higher RPM, and improved drivetrain efficiency. * replaced its 60kWh battery pack with a 100kWh pack, improving range, longevity, power delivery and charging speed. * made major iterations to the computer, with many new capabilities added in hardware and software. * improved full self driving to the point where it can navigate city streets with barely any intervention. * completely revamped the interior. Ventilated seats. Rear screen. Acoustic glass. Improved legroom and headroom. Heat pump for HVAC --- There are many benefits to customers in Tesla preserving the exterior shell of the vehicle - in particular it means servicing is easier and cheaper, as there is less variation in parts between model years. Accessories from earlier cars are compatible with later cars. There is less needless devaluation of older models.

ProfessorLayton 2y ago
2017 iPhones don't share any sheet metal with 2024 iPhones the way Teslas do [1]. Yes iPhones share similar design language but their design has not stood completely still for a decade. Other car companies are evolving their tech and their designs, while Tesla is seemingly only doing half of that. [1] Unless we want to count the iPhone SE, their cheapest budget-oriented phone, but that only proves my point further that new designs are valued more.