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How do people survive with Linux and Windows.

• crazygringo 2y ago
  Do you call being hacked with ransomware "surviving"? Or being part of a nefarious botnet "surviving"? Or accidentally installing keyloggers "surviving"?
  • the_mitsuhiko 2y ago
    I am happy to make the decisions myself than have some random tech company decide on my behalf.
    • crazygringo 2y ago
      OK great, but getting hacked by ransomware still isn't what I'd call "surviving". It's a matter of tradeoffs. In exchange for making more security decisions for yourself, you wind up with a much higher risk of losing your data and privacy. So it's important to acknowledge what you're giving up as well. And Apple isn't exactly a "random tech company". It's currently literally the third largest company in the world [1]. That's about as opposite of being a "random" company as a company can possibly be. In contrast, it's precisely the software that people do install from seeming "random tech companies" that can conceal secret keyloggers, etc. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_public_corporations_by_market_capitalization#Trillion-dollar_companies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_public_corporations_by...
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  • talldayo 2y ago
    Given that all three of those things are documented and present threats to Windows and MacOS (as well as iOS and Android), I guess so. Those users seem to "surivive" fine.
    • crazygringo 2y ago
      I've never heard of ransomware, botnets, or keyloggers on iPhones. I know less about Android, and how much it depends on whether you only install apps from within the Play store or not. But no, I wouldn't call it "surviving" if you get hit by ransomwhere and have to pay hundreds/thousands of dollars to restore your data, or lose your data.
      • talldayo 2y ago
        > I've never heard of ransomware, botnets, or keyloggers on iPhones. Pegasus?