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Those are the times one gets the opposite of imposter syndrome.

ASalazarMX 2y ago
Fortunately it's a temporal state, otherwise there's risk of entering the Dunning-Kruger effect. "You did awesome, but don't let it go to your head."
- dylan604 2y ago
  F-that! That's one of those times where I re-enact the scene from the Bond Golden Eye film where the guy jumps up extending both arms yelling "Yes! I am invincible!" Of course I totally expect the hubris to be short lived, just maybe not with liquid nitrogen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXW02XmBGQw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXW02XmBGQw
  - squigz 2y ago
    I alternate between "I am the best programmer to ever exist" and "I am completely incompetent at this and I should quit" while debugging.
    - dylan604 2y ago
      I've been known to inform people that the person that wrote the incredibly horrendous code that caused whatever problems to occur should be fired immediately knowing good and well that I was the only dev to write any of the code.
      - dmd 2y ago
        me, yesterday: What absolute piece of shit asshole wrote this shell script? my wife: Was it you? me: Well obviously
        dctoedt 2y ago
        > my wife: Was it you? me: Well obviously "Research shows" (I read long ago) that the happiest men are those take their wives' advice — that's certainly been true for my own N=1, for coming up on four decades now. I'd imagine we could replace "wives" with "spouses" and get comparable results.
        Angostura 2y ago
        > I'd imagine we could replace "wives" with "spouses" and get comparable results. Haven’t you just risked an infinite loop in your code?
        dctoedt 2y ago
        Hah! I was referring to some men having husbands these days, but I take your point!
    - saagarjha 2y ago
      https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/275/257/dbc.jpg https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/275/257/dbc...
    - 9659 2y ago
      If you are honest, it may not even alternate. Both feelings can exist at the same time.
    - Aerbil313 2y ago
      I prefer "Why did I need to see this subtlest detail to resolve the bug, modern software sucks" and "Why do we not have better tools that would have prevented me from writing this bug in the first place, modern software sucks".
brailsafe 2y ago
This is very true, and we need these moments. Lately I've been struggling to figure out where my place is, how to maybe get back into freelancing, what I'm technically good at etc... lots of ruminating since I've been out of work for a year. But.. I met someone at the gym who's been struggling with an esoteric problem on an ancient piece of software for over a decade, and they approached me to ask if I could solve it. I said "maybe", sat on it for a few days, and then replicated the issue on my machine and solved their problem in about an hour. I asked for $50 and they gave me double, which was wildly more rewarding than being paid $100k to write react all year, not that that salary is on the table any longer.
- manmal 2y ago
  > not that that salary is on the table any longer Is the job market so bad right now? I‘m in a privileged position (and not in the US), so have no clue of the state of things.
  - brailsafe 2y ago
    I'm in Canada, but yes it's that bad.
- 9659 2y ago
  $50 for a one off thing, for a gym buddy is fine. in the blue collar world, that would be a 'case of beer' for helping me out. But in business, you need to charge an honest / fair amount. (sure, sometimes that 1 hour bug fix had $100K of 'value', but we could argue about honest / fair). You mention being an employee at $100K a year. Double that, gives you a contractor rate of $100 an hour. That is the floor of what you should be asking floor; as in the absolute lowest. Another $50 or $100 an hour is still fair and honest in todays economy.
justinclift 2y ago
There's an opposite to imposter syndrome?
- deleted 2y ago
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- Jcowell 2y ago
  Yes the kids these days call it being “Him” (or whatever third person singular pronoun you may refer to)
  - sn9 2y ago
    The term that came to mind was being "cracked".
    - justinclift 2y ago
      Not sure how being crazy is supposed to be the opposite of imposter syndrome?
      - sn9 2y ago
        https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cracked https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cracked
  - aodonnell2536 2y ago
    Not really a new phenomenon, though. People have been been calling others “The Man” for ages

Fortunately it's a temporal state, otherwise there's risk of entering the Dunning-Kruger effect. "You did awesome, but don't let it go to your head."

dylan604 2y ago
F-that! That's one of those times where I re-enact the scene from the Bond Golden Eye film where the guy jumps up extending both arms yelling "Yes! I am invincible!" Of course I totally expect the hubris to be short lived, just maybe not with liquid nitrogen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXW02XmBGQw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXW02XmBGQw
- squigz 2y ago
  I alternate between "I am the best programmer to ever exist" and "I am completely incompetent at this and I should quit" while debugging.
  - dylan604 2y ago
    I've been known to inform people that the person that wrote the incredibly horrendous code that caused whatever problems to occur should be fired immediately knowing good and well that I was the only dev to write any of the code.
    - dmd 2y ago
      me, yesterday: What absolute piece of shit asshole wrote this shell script? my wife: Was it you? me: Well obviously
      - dctoedt 2y ago
        > my wife: Was it you? me: Well obviously "Research shows" (I read long ago) that the happiest men are those take their wives' advice — that's certainly been true for my own N=1, for coming up on four decades now. I'd imagine we could replace "wives" with "spouses" and get comparable results.
        Angostura 2y ago
        > I'd imagine we could replace "wives" with "spouses" and get comparable results. Haven’t you just risked an infinite loop in your code?
        dctoedt 2y ago
        Hah! I was referring to some men having husbands these days, but I take your point!
  - saagarjha 2y ago
    https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/275/257/dbc.jpg https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/275/257/dbc...
  - 9659 2y ago
    If you are honest, it may not even alternate. Both feelings can exist at the same time.
  - Aerbil313 2y ago
    I prefer "Why did I need to see this subtlest detail to resolve the bug, modern software sucks" and "Why do we not have better tools that would have prevented me from writing this bug in the first place, modern software sucks".

brailsafe 2y ago

This is very true, and we need these moments. Lately I've been struggling to figure out where my place is, how to maybe get back into freelancing, what I'm technically good at etc... lots of ruminating since I've been out of work for a year. But.. I met someone at the gym who's been struggling with an esoteric problem on an ancient piece of software for over a decade, and they approached me to ask if I could solve it. I said "maybe", sat on it for a few days, and then replicated the issue on my machine and solved their problem in about an hour. I asked for $50 and they gave me double, which was wildly more rewarding than being paid $100k to write react all year, not that that salary is on the table any longer.

manmal 2y ago
> not that that salary is on the table any longer Is the job market so bad right now? I‘m in a privileged position (and not in the US), so have no clue of the state of things.
- brailsafe 2y ago
  I'm in Canada, but yes it's that bad.
9659 2y ago
$50 for a one off thing, for a gym buddy is fine. in the blue collar world, that would be a 'case of beer' for helping me out. But in business, you need to charge an honest / fair amount. (sure, sometimes that 1 hour bug fix had $100K of 'value', but we could argue about honest / fair). You mention being an employee at $100K a year. Double that, gives you a contractor rate of $100 an hour. That is the floor of what you should be asking floor; as in the absolute lowest. Another $50 or $100 an hour is still fair and honest in todays economy.

justinclift 2y ago

There's an opposite to imposter syndrome?

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Jcowell 2y ago
Yes the kids these days call it being “Him” (or whatever third person singular pronoun you may refer to)
- sn9 2y ago
  The term that came to mind was being "cracked".
  - justinclift 2y ago
    Not sure how being crazy is supposed to be the opposite of imposter syndrome?
    - sn9 2y ago
      https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cracked https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cracked
- aodonnell2536 2y ago
  Not really a new phenomenon, though. People have been been calling others “The Man” for ages