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Unfortunately that is not how it works. The only way to get different browsers is to get absolutely every single OS project with some traction to force installa

Unfortunately that is not how it works. The only way to get different browsers is to get absolutely every single OS project with some traction to force installation of them, to show advertisement everywhere, and to couple it with the installation of any piece of software, and to set it as default, plus import silently everything. Anything that is not a dirty tactic will not work. Also, the moment a user got an error they dont understand in certain browser, they blame the browser and change. How do you think firefox got out of business? Have you tried using Firefox to request an appointment with the Spanish Drive and Vehicle License Administration? It wont work. The civil servant will tell you use chrome. When a user get 2 or 3 use chrome to work, they will just use whatever it works. They won the browser war, adding ladybug to steal from firefox, is also not going to help either.

paulryanrogers 2y ago
All of those problems can be fixed by legal means. We cannot expect the market to regulate itself into a healthy competitive balance. Force sites to implement baseline standards and not rely on non-standard features. Disallow major web players from pushing their own browsers and from relying on their own browser's non-standard features. Permanently require browser ballots on all widely used consumer OS's. Heavily fine violators consistently. Use the money to support an independent standards body. Naive users will get a random, standards compliant browser. This throng will help prevent sites with no concern for the law from testing against only one instead of against the standard.
- erremerre 2y ago
  There has been 30/40 years of internet, and no legal battle has manage to get anything on that regard. I would even say, topics on the internet with a lot of lobbying, such as pirating software/media, in the same timeframe, has managed to get absolutely nothing done. I am afraid, it would not be possible to regulate legally.
  - paulryanrogers 2y ago
    Yet regulations have happened and continue to, just different ones of varying ... quality/purpose. Even among preservation/piracy there have been moderately successful efforts. Apathy will not bring change. Only speech and action.
    - zamadatix 2y ago
      The only thing that resulted in a decline in piracy was an increase in convenience, simplicity, and speed brought by on demand services (cloud game downloads and subscription passes, streaming video and music services, ebook/software subscriptions through app stores). The many billions spent per year in lobbying for deep seated laws like DMCA or equivalents never brought any meaningful change to the problem because the root of the issue was not solved by more restrictions.

paulryanrogers 2y ago

All of those problems can be fixed by legal means. We cannot expect the market to regulate itself into a healthy competitive balance. Force sites to implement baseline standards and not rely on non-standard features. Disallow major web players from pushing their own browsers and from relying on their own browser's non-standard features. Permanently require browser ballots on all widely used consumer OS's. Heavily fine violators consistently. Use the money to support an independent standards body. Naive users will get a random, standards compliant browser. This throng will help prevent sites with no concern for the law from testing against only one instead of against the standard.

erremerre 2y ago
There has been 30/40 years of internet, and no legal battle has manage to get anything on that regard. I would even say, topics on the internet with a lot of lobbying, such as pirating software/media, in the same timeframe, has managed to get absolutely nothing done. I am afraid, it would not be possible to regulate legally.
- paulryanrogers 2y ago
  Yet regulations have happened and continue to, just different ones of varying ... quality/purpose. Even among preservation/piracy there have been moderately successful efforts. Apathy will not bring change. Only speech and action.
  - zamadatix 2y ago
    The only thing that resulted in a decline in piracy was an increase in convenience, simplicity, and speed brought by on demand services (cloud game downloads and subscription passes, streaming video and music services, ebook/software subscriptions through app stores). The many billions spent per year in lobbying for deep seated laws like DMCA or equivalents never brought any meaningful change to the problem because the root of the issue was not solved by more restrictions.