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> I don't understand what is wrong with Firefox. It's developed by Mozilla, Google's controlled opposition. I submitted a link[0] on ads coming to Firefox but

by voytec 2y ago

> I don't understand what is wrong with Firefox. It's developed by Mozilla, Google's controlled opposition. I submitted a link[0] on ads coming to Firefox but HN shadowed it almost immediately (present on /newest when logged in, nowhere to be found when logged out). [0] https://www.jwz.org/blog/2024/06/mozilla-is-an-advertising-company-now/ https://www.jwz.org/blog/2024/06/mozilla-is-an-advertising-c...

gjm11 2y ago
That might be because Jamie Zawinski's website, which that link links to, does something ... special ... when it sees HN in the "Referer" field, so anyone actually following that link from here would (unless they take special measures) get IIRC a famous obscene image rather than the actual post you were hoping to link to. (JWZ is not a fan of Hacker News and its community.)
- voytec 2y ago
  Ok, didn't knew that. Still a dick move on HN's part. Shadowing should be restricted to abusers.
  - Wowfunhappy 2y ago
    Wouldn't the submission get user flagged anyway? Because when people clicked it, they'd see something NSFW and devoid of interesting content.
    - voytec 2y ago
      Flagged for what? In this case user - me - was unaware that submitted content gets replaced when requested with Referer header mentioning HN. There should be a 'you cannot post this' warning instead of hidden post creation. I only noticed shadowban by accident: switched to logged-in browser to submit and went back to logged-out for browsing.
      - Wowfunhappy 2y ago
        > Flagged for what? Flagged for being NSFW and devoid of interesting content. The average user, like you, is unaware that the content they are seeing is different from the content you submitted.
- Y_Y 2y ago
  All I see is a testicle in an egg-cup. Hardly special. (Though it might be a good idea to special-case this to ad a non-referral link at submit time.)
  - gjm11 2y ago
    Ah, OK. My hazy memory was that it was the goatse.cx image, which is for most people more unpalatable than a testicle in an eggcup, but I didn't check exactly what it was :-).
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specialist 2y ago
What now? I love a good JWZ rant. Introducing Anonym: Raising the bar for privacy-preserving digital advertising https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/mozilla-anonym-raising-the-bar-for-privacy-preserving-digital-advertising/ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/mozilla-anonym-raising-t... Oh. How Brave of them.

by voytec 2y ago

gjm11 2y ago

That might be because Jamie Zawinski's website, which that link links to, does something ... special ... when it sees HN in the "Referer" field, so anyone actually following that link from here would (unless they take special measures) get IIRC a famous obscene image rather than the actual post you were hoping to link to. (JWZ is not a fan of Hacker News and its community.)

voytec 2y ago
Ok, didn't knew that. Still a dick move on HN's part. Shadowing should be restricted to abusers.
- Wowfunhappy 2y ago
  Wouldn't the submission get user flagged anyway? Because when people clicked it, they'd see something NSFW and devoid of interesting content.
  - voytec 2y ago
    Flagged for what? In this case user - me - was unaware that submitted content gets replaced when requested with Referer header mentioning HN. There should be a 'you cannot post this' warning instead of hidden post creation. I only noticed shadowban by accident: switched to logged-in browser to submit and went back to logged-out for browsing.
    - Wowfunhappy 2y ago
      > Flagged for what? Flagged for being NSFW and devoid of interesting content. The average user, like you, is unaware that the content they are seeing is different from the content you submitted.
Y_Y 2y ago
All I see is a testicle in an egg-cup. Hardly special. (Though it might be a good idea to special-case this to ad a non-referral link at submit time.)
- gjm11 2y ago
  Ah, OK. My hazy memory was that it was the goatse.cx image, which is for most people more unpalatable than a testicle in an eggcup, but I didn't check exactly what it was :-).

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specialist 2y ago

What now? I love a good JWZ rant. Introducing Anonym: Raising the bar for privacy-preserving digital advertising https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/mozilla-anonym-raising-the-bar-for-privacy-preserving-digital-advertising/ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/mozilla-anonym-raising-t... Oh. How Brave of them.