> The most blatant example is when comparing vowels before /t/ vs before /d/, which means that "matter" (short) and "madder" (long) are distinguishable This d

> The most blatant example is when comparing vowels before /t/ vs before /d/, which means that "matter" (short) and "madder" (long) are distinguishable This doesn't resonate with me - the `ma` in both those words are pronounced exactly the same and are of the same duration when speaking. I checked a few youtube videos now before responding (some science video with 'matter' in the title and some video with 'madder' in the title) and there isn't a distinguishable difference. Do you have a few links to videos that show a difference?