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I think apple BTO prices are competitive with large laptop vendors but not with Framework. For example a m3 pro 16”/96gb/2tb costs 7700aud. A dell with 64gb and

I think apple BTO prices are competitive with large laptop vendors but not with Framework. For example a m3 pro 16”/96gb/2tb costs 7700aud. A dell with 64gb and 2tb costs at least 6000aud. hp zbook with 64gb/2tb costs like 8000aud and that’s after discount. Obviously the dell and hp may shine in one or two things but are probably inferior in many ways. I’m not sure how warranty stacks though, applecare for 3 years is 650aud, and that’s definitely something i would purchase. I reckon there’s apple tax, but I also think it’s competitively priced. Framework 16” is significantly cheaper if you diy. Edit: Now that I'm at a laptop and not on phone I could check on the warranty situation. The Dell come with 1 year standard warranty (which is better than Apple's 7 complimentary 7 day), but the XPS is 420aud for 3 years, and the Alienware is 735aud for 3 years. HP situation is better with a HP Care Pack with 3 year support/warranty for 190aud or 270aud depending which model you choose.

Fluorescence 2y ago
Hmm. > a m3 pro 16”/96gb/2tb costs 7700aud You can't buy an m3 pro with more than 36GB in the UK. A Max with 64GB is £4,699 (8,900 AUD). A 64GB/2GB Dell Alienware is £2,399 (4,550 AUD).
- commandersaki 2y ago
  Yeah, I got the naming wrong but the prices right-ish (actually 7800aud not 7700). That'd be a m3 max 16"/96gb/2tb which is 4799ukp, but you're right the spec equivalent dell alienware is 2399ukp. But in australia the dell alienware is 6000ish aud, and the xps 16 (which is a non starter as it has a touch sensitive esc/function keys and invisible touchpad) is also 6000 aud. I guess we're paying some crazy tax on the alienware. Also the alienware is 18" which depending on what you want is good or bad (personally something I wouldn't want). Edit: In the usa m3 max 16/96gb/2tb is 4699usd, alienware 16" 64gb/2tb is 2249usd.
  - Fluorescence 2y ago
    > But in australia the dell alienware is 6000ish aud The Alienware m16 R2 actually looks cheaper in Aus than UK, you just can't spec it with 64GB/2TB for some unknown reason. If you could for the same percentage bump as the UK, it would be 3577 AUD. https://www.dell.com/en-au/shop/gaming-and-games/alienware-m16-r2-gaming-laptop/spd/alienware-m16-r2-laptop/oannm162128001dau https://www.dell.com/en-au/shop/gaming-and-games/alienware-m...

Fluorescence 2y ago

Hmm. > a m3 pro 16”/96gb/2tb costs 7700aud You can't buy an m3 pro with more than 36GB in the UK. A Max with 64GB is £4,699 (8,900 AUD). A 64GB/2GB Dell Alienware is £2,399 (4,550 AUD).

commandersaki 2y ago
Yeah, I got the naming wrong but the prices right-ish (actually 7800aud not 7700). That'd be a m3 max 16"/96gb/2tb which is 4799ukp, but you're right the spec equivalent dell alienware is 2399ukp. But in australia the dell alienware is 6000ish aud, and the xps 16 (which is a non starter as it has a touch sensitive esc/function keys and invisible touchpad) is also 6000 aud. I guess we're paying some crazy tax on the alienware. Also the alienware is 18" which depending on what you want is good or bad (personally something I wouldn't want). Edit: In the usa m3 max 16/96gb/2tb is 4699usd, alienware 16" 64gb/2tb is 2249usd.
- Fluorescence 2y ago
  > But in australia the dell alienware is 6000ish aud The Alienware m16 R2 actually looks cheaper in Aus than UK, you just can't spec it with 64GB/2TB for some unknown reason. If you could for the same percentage bump as the UK, it would be 3577 AUD. https://www.dell.com/en-au/shop/gaming-and-games/alienware-m16-r2-gaming-laptop/spd/alienware-m16-r2-laptop/oannm162128001dau https://www.dell.com/en-au/shop/gaming-and-games/alienware-m...