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Renovate like you say means just restore damaged "skin", not rebuild the entire building because it's concrete have reached a reasonable end of life and it's de

by kkfx 2y ago

Renovate like you say means just restore damaged "skin", not rebuild the entire building because it's concrete have reached a reasonable end of life and it's design it's not suitable anymore for the modern time, for that you need to destroy the old building to the ground, evacuate the enormous amount of scrap material, than rebuild and no, not in Tokyo or anywhere else it's doable if the density is too high. Is a common misconception thinking concrete is forever, one we lost decades ago. Living spread is permitted by remote work, but thanks to remote workers those who are not can WFH in many other cases, like a dentist who can work in the basement while living at the first floor in a small village of single family homes. Thinking this is for remote workers only is a common misconception typical in cities where people often have issues imaging a life outside the city. I was in one dense city, I know the feeling, than I go outside and I understand was false.

shiroiushi 2y ago
>Renovate like you say means just restore damaged "skin", not rebuild the entire building because it's concrete have reached a reasonable end of life and it's design it's not suitable anymore for the modern time, for that you need to destroy the old building to the ground, evacuate the enormous amount of scrap material, than rebuild and no, not in Tokyo or anywhere else it's doable if the density is too high. 1. No, "renovation" means making major changes inside the building. In a condo, this usually means ripping out the kitchen and bathroom fixtures and replacing them all, redoing the walls, etc. This doesn't mean replacing the building; that's called "rebuilding". 2. Yes, buildings here in Tokyo are demolished and rebuilt all the time. It's extremely common. There's apartment blocks near me being demolished and replaced right now. Obviously you've never been here, or any place where they know how to demolish and replace buildings regularly. Buildings here generally don't last more than 40 years because of earthquake standards. The lifestyle you're suggesting is utterly crazy. You can't have tens of millions of people spread out and driving to various rural destinations all day long; the traffic would be non-stop.
- kkfx 2y ago
  1. witch is useless when the main structure reach the end of life... And it's useless for energy saving purposes, because you can't change the overall design to get more low Sun in the winter and less high Sun in the summer and so on. Rebuilding means demolishing the whole structure to create a new one, with a different design for different purposes; 2. I was in Tokyo for a project and before as a tourist, I've not seen large buildings totally erased and rebuilt but it doesn't matter I was there for a too little timeframe for that, but enough to see how many issues of high density Tokyo have, even the the Japanese have put an immense effort to handle many of them. About the lifestyle I suggest, here in EU: - Nederland, 425.4 humans/km², 81.3% live in single family homes - Belgium, 381.79 h//km², 77.6% in single family homes - France, far less dense, 62% in single family homes - Ireland even less dense, 89.4% in single family homes While some others like Italy or Spain do the opposite. Accidentally I'm Italian and I'm living in France switched from a dense city to the mountains and have no intention to came back, as many, many others, essentially all that have tried this way, so well, working it does work, it's not crazy, and local services are spread as well offering local jobs to many people in far better living condition than dense cities in the same country. It's a matter of choice, and I bet the late night Tokyo metro show the effect of density on humans.
  - shiroiushi 2y ago
    It's not a matter of choice; your lifestyle is a luxury. If everyone lived like that, there wouldn't be enough liveable land on Earth for them all, and enough land to grow food to feed them. Get a clue.

by kkfx 2y ago

shiroiushi 2y ago

>Renovate like you say means just restore damaged "skin", not rebuild the entire building because it's concrete have reached a reasonable end of life and it's design it's not suitable anymore for the modern time, for that you need to destroy the old building to the ground, evacuate the enormous amount of scrap material, than rebuild and no, not in Tokyo or anywhere else it's doable if the density is too high. 1. No, "renovation" means making major changes inside the building. In a condo, this usually means ripping out the kitchen and bathroom fixtures and replacing them all, redoing the walls, etc. This doesn't mean replacing the building; that's called "rebuilding". 2. Yes, buildings here in Tokyo are demolished and rebuilt all the time. It's extremely common. There's apartment blocks near me being demolished and replaced right now. Obviously you've never been here, or any place where they know how to demolish and replace buildings regularly. Buildings here generally don't last more than 40 years because of earthquake standards. The lifestyle you're suggesting is utterly crazy. You can't have tens of millions of people spread out and driving to various rural destinations all day long; the traffic would be non-stop.

kkfx 2y ago
1. witch is useless when the main structure reach the end of life... And it's useless for energy saving purposes, because you can't change the overall design to get more low Sun in the winter and less high Sun in the summer and so on. Rebuilding means demolishing the whole structure to create a new one, with a different design for different purposes; 2. I was in Tokyo for a project and before as a tourist, I've not seen large buildings totally erased and rebuilt but it doesn't matter I was there for a too little timeframe for that, but enough to see how many issues of high density Tokyo have, even the the Japanese have put an immense effort to handle many of them. About the lifestyle I suggest, here in EU: - Nederland, 425.4 humans/km², 81.3% live in single family homes - Belgium, 381.79 h//km², 77.6% in single family homes - France, far less dense, 62% in single family homes - Ireland even less dense, 89.4% in single family homes While some others like Italy or Spain do the opposite. Accidentally I'm Italian and I'm living in France switched from a dense city to the mountains and have no intention to came back, as many, many others, essentially all that have tried this way, so well, working it does work, it's not crazy, and local services are spread as well offering local jobs to many people in far better living condition than dense cities in the same country. It's a matter of choice, and I bet the late night Tokyo metro show the effect of density on humans.
- shiroiushi 2y ago
  It's not a matter of choice; your lifestyle is a luxury. If everyone lived like that, there wouldn't be enough liveable land on Earth for them all, and enough land to grow food to feed them. Get a clue.