Alright, have the "constructive intelligent debate", things that have already been mentioned in this thread: purpose of fines, proportionality, coercing behavio

Alright, have the "constructive intelligent debate", things that have already been mentioned in this thread: purpose of fines, proportionality, coercing behavior. I'll offer my own topic: tyranny, and how it deserves to be stomped out at it's root. But that's not immediately about the subject at all. What else is there? Somethings are just shallow, note that no one in this wider thread goes beyond these topics at all and the same concepts keeps getting cited again and again. The longest comments in this thread is two people flinging worse things than what got both of us flagged by dang, and even there you don't get anything more complex than attacking political ideologies. So what does "constructive intelligent debate" mean to you precisely, as I'm sure we're at the completely different ends of what that term means.