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Absolutely, if you value more how the product and service responds to 1/1000 event , if you value how your daily driving experience is more then Tesla beats the

Absolutely, if you value more how the product and service responds to 1/1000 event , if you value how your daily driving experience is more then Tesla beats the Toyota hands down. I am not trying to diss you, i kind of value the same things. I own a Toyota hydrogen fuel cell car , and I bought an expensive experimental car is because it was Toyota and the support that would come with . However every buyer has different priorities, risk minimization while common , also why most big companies would buy from IBM or SAP instead of a startup or pay license for redhat linux or oracle Java. This also means you objectively have poorer experience and are a cycle or two behind in innovation, most are not okay with that

wilted-iris 2y ago
I don't think that's true. A GR Corolla is going to have a nicer interior than a Tesla, it'll handle (much) better, and I bet it's a lot more fun to drive too.
- manquer 2y ago
  almost always an electric motor will beat any combustion engine , just because of how torque works, plus the lower center of gravity and the rear engines makes the Tesla hands down more fun than a hot hatchback. FSD is not full self driving but is still miles and miles better than anything Toyota has. My Toyota which was their flagship research platform still struggles to do lane assist on sharp curves . You may have other parameters of course , but GR Corolla is poorer than a Tesla in many parameters a lot of customers value (which is why it sells)
  - SkyPuncher 2y ago
    Having tested FSD, I prefer the system in my 2020 Hyundai. It doesn’t cover as much road, but it’s extremely predictable and pretty simple to use. I found that FSD would randomly require intervention at the most inopportune times. I’d simple prefer to be hand driving into those situations than have to jump into reaction mode.
  - steelframe 2y ago
    I've owned a Tesla and now currently own 3 (non-Tesla) EVs. Let's just say we come from different planets when it comes to automotive aesthetics.
    - manquer 2y ago
      that we probably do. Neither of those planets are outliers though ? which is why they both sell in quantities in excess of million units ?
dmbche 2y ago
How's the hydrogen working for ya?
- manquer 2y ago
  Quite well for my needs . I have clocked 25k miles in 2 years and i have had no issues or complaint

wilted-iris 2y ago

I don't think that's true. A GR Corolla is going to have a nicer interior than a Tesla, it'll handle (much) better, and I bet it's a lot more fun to drive too.

manquer 2y ago
almost always an electric motor will beat any combustion engine , just because of how torque works, plus the lower center of gravity and the rear engines makes the Tesla hands down more fun than a hot hatchback. FSD is not full self driving but is still miles and miles better than anything Toyota has. My Toyota which was their flagship research platform still struggles to do lane assist on sharp curves . You may have other parameters of course , but GR Corolla is poorer than a Tesla in many parameters a lot of customers value (which is why it sells)
- SkyPuncher 2y ago
  Having tested FSD, I prefer the system in my 2020 Hyundai. It doesn’t cover as much road, but it’s extremely predictable and pretty simple to use. I found that FSD would randomly require intervention at the most inopportune times. I’d simple prefer to be hand driving into those situations than have to jump into reaction mode.
- steelframe 2y ago
  I've owned a Tesla and now currently own 3 (non-Tesla) EVs. Let's just say we come from different planets when it comes to automotive aesthetics.
  - manquer 2y ago
    that we probably do. Neither of those planets are outliers though ? which is why they both sell in quantities in excess of million units ?

dmbche 2y ago

How's the hydrogen working for ya?

manquer 2y ago
Quite well for my needs . I have clocked 25k miles in 2 years and i have had no issues or complaint