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Coincidentally, a "leak" was reported yesterday suggesting EU MP's intend to exempt "confidential" govt info, as well as police, intelligence, and military pers

Coincidentally, a "leak" was reported yesterday suggesting EU MP's intend to exempt "confidential" govt info, as well as police, intelligence, and military personnel from Chat Control: https://www.eureporter.co/business/data/mass-surveillance-data/2024/04/15/leak-eu-interior-ministers-want-to-exempt-themselves-from-chat-control-bulk-scanning-of-private-messages/ https://www.eureporter.co/business/data/mass-surveillance-da...

thomasdeleeuw 2y ago
Ahh, we are against violence, except when it is applied to people we don't agree with. We are against surveillance, it is only to be applied to people not in our group. We are for freedom of speech, but only if you agree with us. The list goes on.
- zer00eyz 2y ago
  I keep wanting to hand out copies of 1984. In reading your comment, it suddenly dawned on me that 1984 has turned into a how to manual for modern governments, much the way The Prince is misinterpreted today.
  - phero_cnstrcts 2y ago
    We’re not far off the previous Revolution mentioned in the book.
  - 0rzech 2y ago
    People interested in "Nineteen Eighty-Four" by George Orwell might also be interested in "Limes inferior" by Janusz A. Zajdel, "Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley and "Animal Farm: A Fairy Story" by George Orwell.
  - causal 2y ago
    Perhaps my biggest criticisms of 1984 is that it tends to make the reader fixate on some group of evil conspirators at the top, at the expense of understanding the banality of evil. I think this portrayal sows distrust in real democracy through presumption of evil intent.
jack_pp 2y ago
I think we as people should move to have the opposite of this, if you're a public official you should have all your comms public, what are they afraid of? If they do nothing wrong then this shouldn't be a problem lol
- lgrebe 2y ago
  This!
- survirtual 2y ago
  I've been saying this for years. Glad others are out there with similar thinking. The more authority you take on, the LESS privacy you should receive. That is how you balance authority.
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0rzech 2y ago
This information has definitely been available before [1], though some media might have reported it just yesterday. [1] https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/leak-eu-interior-ministers-want-to-exempt-themselves-from-chat-control-bulk-scanning-of-private-messages/ https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/leak-eu-interior-ministers-...

thomasdeleeuw 2y ago

Ahh, we are against violence, except when it is applied to people we don't agree with. We are against surveillance, it is only to be applied to people not in our group. We are for freedom of speech, but only if you agree with us. The list goes on.

zer00eyz 2y ago
I keep wanting to hand out copies of 1984. In reading your comment, it suddenly dawned on me that 1984 has turned into a how to manual for modern governments, much the way The Prince is misinterpreted today.
- phero_cnstrcts 2y ago
  We’re not far off the previous Revolution mentioned in the book.
- 0rzech 2y ago
  People interested in "Nineteen Eighty-Four" by George Orwell might also be interested in "Limes inferior" by Janusz A. Zajdel, "Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley and "Animal Farm: A Fairy Story" by George Orwell.
- causal 2y ago
  Perhaps my biggest criticisms of 1984 is that it tends to make the reader fixate on some group of evil conspirators at the top, at the expense of understanding the banality of evil. I think this portrayal sows distrust in real democracy through presumption of evil intent.

jack_pp 2y ago

I think we as people should move to have the opposite of this, if you're a public official you should have all your comms public, what are they afraid of? If they do nothing wrong then this shouldn't be a problem lol

lgrebe 2y ago
This!
survirtual 2y ago
I've been saying this for years. Glad others are out there with similar thinking. The more authority you take on, the LESS privacy you should receive. That is how you balance authority.

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0rzech 2y ago

This information has definitely been available before [1], though some media might have reported it just yesterday. [1] https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/leak-eu-interior-ministers-want-to-exempt-themselves-from-chat-control-bulk-scanning-of-private-messages/ https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/leak-eu-interior-ministers-...