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Anyone wanting to watch this movie (which is great) just go into it cold. Be warned that there's a pretty extended sex scene, but otherwise just go in without

Anyone wanting to watch this movie (which is great) just go into it cold. Be warned that there's a pretty extended sex scene, but otherwise just go in without expectations.

ecjhdnc2025 2y ago
> Be warned that there's a pretty extended sex scene, but otherwise just go in without expectations. I want to push back slightly against the idea that's an "extended sex scene", or even that it's a "sex scene" at all. It's one of the most beautiful sequences in all of cinema -- a grieving couple rediscovering intimacy and joy. The way it is intercut with them dressing, getting ready for dinner, the way you can see it brought happiness and affirmation and some sense that life is not over and love survived a terrible loss. It's central to the entire film: to why they are in Venice in the first place, to their commitment to each other, to their determined love for each other.
- khazhoux 2y ago
  > It's one of the most beautiful sequences in all of cinema -- a grieving couple rediscovering intimacy and joy. The way it is intercut with them dressing, getting ready for dinner, the way you can see it brought happiness and affirmation and some sense that life is not over and love survived a terrible loss. It's central to the entire film: to why they are in Venice in the first place, to their commitment to each other, to their determined love for each other. Also known as a "sex scene." And at a full five minutes, it's a rather long scene :-) It's also one of the most notorious sex scenes in cinema from that era, with persistent rumors that Sutherland and Christie actually were doing the deed. But I think you wrongly inferred that the commenter was trying to dissuade people from watching the movie because of it. I interpreted it just as a fair warning, lest you think it might be a fun pick for family movie night with the kids and grandparents.
  - ecjhdnc2025 2y ago
    > Also known as a "sex scene." And at a full five minutes, it's a rather long scene :-) It has almost nothing creatively in common with sex scenes in almost any other movie ever made, which are usually (lazily, and often misogynistically) used to cheaply bond the damsel to the hero. It's not a sex scene; it is fully and completely a love scene. I can think of so few like it. > It's also one of the most notorious sex scenes in cinema from that era, with persistent rumors that Sutherland and Christie actually were doing the deed. Persistent, infantile, somewhat misogynistic rumours.
    - itsoktocry 2y ago
      Buddy, when two people are having sex in a movie, it's a "sex scene", however you choose to explain the nuance. >Persistent, infantile, somewhat misogynistic rumours. What makes it "misogynistic"?
      - ecjhdnc2025 2y ago
        > Buddy, when two people are having sex in a movie, it's a "sex scene", however you choose to explain the nuance. I'm not your buddy and I'm trying to draw what I think is a pretty important creative, cultural, artistic distinction. But if you don't see it, that's fine. > What makes it "misogynistic"? Have you ever considered how the balance of male and female nudity works in Hollywood? Who is always the most exposed? As a result it's very nearly intrinsically misogynistic to suggest two actors really had heterosexual sex on a film set. The portrayal and the balance of power makes that clear. (I mean consider how the distinction works if it is two men or two women... how do you decide what is portrayal and what is sex?)
        hulitu 2y ago
        > Have you ever considered how the balance of male and female nudity works in Hollywood? Using balance and Hollywood in the same sentence looks strange to me. I find most of Hollywood movies unbalanced.
    - khazhoux 2y ago

Anyone wanting to watch this movie (which is great) just go into it cold. Be warned that there's a pretty extended sex scene, but otherwise just go in without expectations.

ecjhdnc2025 2y ago

> Be warned that there's a pretty extended sex scene, but otherwise just go in without expectations. I want to push back slightly against the idea that's an "extended sex scene", or even that it's a "sex scene" at all. It's one of the most beautiful sequences in all of cinema -- a grieving couple rediscovering intimacy and joy. The way it is intercut with them dressing, getting ready for dinner, the way you can see it brought happiness and affirmation and some sense that life is not over and love survived a terrible loss. It's central to the entire film: to why they are in Venice in the first place, to their commitment to each other, to their determined love for each other.

khazhoux 2y ago
> It's one of the most beautiful sequences in all of cinema -- a grieving couple rediscovering intimacy and joy. The way it is intercut with them dressing, getting ready for dinner, the way you can see it brought happiness and affirmation and some sense that life is not over and love survived a terrible loss. It's central to the entire film: to why they are in Venice in the first place, to their commitment to each other, to their determined love for each other. Also known as a "sex scene." And at a full five minutes, it's a rather long scene :-) It's also one of the most notorious sex scenes in cinema from that era, with persistent rumors that Sutherland and Christie actually were doing the deed. But I think you wrongly inferred that the commenter was trying to dissuade people from watching the movie because of it. I interpreted it just as a fair warning, lest you think it might be a fun pick for family movie night with the kids and grandparents.
- ecjhdnc2025 2y ago
  > Also known as a "sex scene." And at a full five minutes, it's a rather long scene :-) It has almost nothing creatively in common with sex scenes in almost any other movie ever made, which are usually (lazily, and often misogynistically) used to cheaply bond the damsel to the hero. It's not a sex scene; it is fully and completely a love scene. I can think of so few like it. > It's also one of the most notorious sex scenes in cinema from that era, with persistent rumors that Sutherland and Christie actually were doing the deed. Persistent, infantile, somewhat misogynistic rumours.
  - itsoktocry 2y ago
    Buddy, when two people are having sex in a movie, it's a "sex scene", however you choose to explain the nuance. >Persistent, infantile, somewhat misogynistic rumours. What makes it "misogynistic"?
    - ecjhdnc2025 2y ago
      > Buddy, when two people are having sex in a movie, it's a "sex scene", however you choose to explain the nuance. I'm not your buddy and I'm trying to draw what I think is a pretty important creative, cultural, artistic distinction. But if you don't see it, that's fine. > What makes it "misogynistic"? Have you ever considered how the balance of male and female nudity works in Hollywood? Who is always the most exposed? As a result it's very nearly intrinsically misogynistic to suggest two actors really had heterosexual sex on a film set. The portrayal and the balance of power makes that clear. (I mean consider how the distinction works if it is two men or two women... how do you decide what is portrayal and what is sex?)
      - hulitu 2y ago
        > Have you ever considered how the balance of male and female nudity works in Hollywood? Using balance and Hollywood in the same sentence looks strange to me. I find most of Hollywood movies unbalanced.
  - khazhoux 2y ago