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HN create account removed from login page
- alttab 14y agoThis could just be maintenance. I can't imagine its good for YC's business model to shut down sign ups.
- georgespencer 14y agoPlease tell me more about YC's business model.
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- wickedchicken 14y agoConvince everyone that node + mongo + backbone + bitcoin is the beginning and end of all software development, from systems software to scientific computing. Receive kickbacks.
- vladd 14y agoHN is mainly goodwill for YC (any VC would pay a fortune to have HN and its audience). So the parent comment seems to suggest that it's damaging to the goodwill of the site to disable signups. If this was a permanent change, I'd agree, but it may be temporary, and it's not totally disabled (you can still signup by submitting content, as someone else wrote).
- briggsbio 14y agovladd, while I completely agree that "HN is mainly goodwill for YC," I think potentially your subsequent parenthetical statement shows misunderstanding of a different business model, the VC model. Or, maybe it was just ambiguous language easily misinterpreted by me (and, I'd assume, others as well). Many content-based companies would love to acquire HN and its audience (e.g. Conde Nast's Reddit acquisition). VCs would love to invest in an HN spin-out to reap returns from said investment via a sale of the entity. However, "VCs would pay a fortune to have HN and its audience," reads more like VC-as-owner/PE rather than VC as investor. Maybe I'm digging too deep in the semantics here, but this seems to be a point that is often lost and VCs vaunted (or derided) as less investors-cum-advisors and more private equity slash-and-burn corporate raiders. Might a VC chime in here? *edited for spell check and readability.
- Mz 14y agoEr, no. HN is part of YC's screening and application process. You have to have an HN account to apply to YC and if you have been an active user, your comments here basically become part of the screening process. It is part of why HN is better behaved than a lot of forums: Being an asshole here can help close doors for some folks which are potentially worth million$.* * At least, this was all true last I heard. I have not looked at their application or application rules/process recently.
- YmMot 14y ago- Get users to sign up. - They post/comment on news items. - ???? - Profit.
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- alttab 14y ago- Get users to sign up for HN. - They get engaged in the community - They get exposed to YC classes and start ups - Talent is attracted to joining YC - YC continues to get best talent - Best talent attracts more/better investors - Increases the likelyhood of start up success in incubator - Profit.
- WiseWeasel 14y agoMaybe they could start featuring a daily paid job posting on HN if they want revenue.
- lubos 14y agoyou can still create new account when submitting new content (while being logged off)
- blhack 14y agoYeah, but if you try to comment on something, it will prompt you to create an account. Go ahead an log out of your account and try to comment on this link.
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- why-el 14y agoIndeed that whats I tried exactly. it also makes sense for "newslogin" page to show just that, a login.
- poiu_ytrewq 14y agoworks!
- temp2012 14y agoAlso, OpenID has been removed. How do I login with my Google account?
- roel_v 14y agoYou can't anymore. There was a post a few months ago that you should set a password on the site itself to be able to continue to log on in the future (future being now, since a couple of days or maybe even weeks already).
- Zaak 14y agoI'm glad I saw this, because I didn't have an email or password set up. In the future, when a major feature like this is removed, it would be nice to see a banner across the top for people who will be affected.
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- cookingrobot 14y agoI'm curious why they removed openid. This is relevant to a project I'm working on.. are there good reasons not to offer that as a sign-in option? What are considered current "best practices" in building an account system?
- jacktoole1 14y agoHere's the initial thread: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3618082 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3618082 My impression was it was more a feature of clickpass's implementation being outdated and requiring maintenance than OpenID not being useful, although there was sentiment that OpenID never gained enough traction and isn't the future anymore.
- iSloth 14y agoSimple, just do a password reset on your hn username and it forwards to your gmail account
- sparknlaunch 14y agoNoticed this today and assumed it was my local settings. Not that HN need to consult or communicate to users but was this announced? I suspect you can still sign up but via another screen?
- kanamekun 14y agoThis is a change to the registration interface. It shouldn't impact most (any?) existing members... The loss of openid button definitely affects existing members though...
- thaumaturgy 14y agopg (or possibly another admin these days) will remove the create-account functionality if HN suddenly becomes very popular, as with the LinkedIn thread. I'm trying to find one of his comments where he mentions this, but there are 8,511 to wade through, and the obvious searches haven't found it yet. edit: I may have misremembered; the first reference I've found was http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3481174 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3481174, but I'm still looking. edit: Gave up looking. I probably don't know what I'm talking about.
- tubbo 14y agocountdown to people selling HN invites like it's a damn torrent tracker </joke> hopefully this maintenence takes care of the issue of the login page being unstyled. i always thought it was supposed to go in a popup on the same page, that would make sense given its unstyled markup.
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- gala8y 14y agoI dont think we are going to see a single pop-up anytime soon on HN. (Quick edit: Site has minimal 'html/css only', _flat_ feel and pop-ups are a different breed.)
- BryanB55 14y agoThat is one fancy log in page...not even a "forgot password" link.
- BryanB55 14y agoIts funny how defensive HN readers are. I love HN and its content but I'm just wondering why there isnt a forgot password link? Seriously...?
- koeselitz 14y agoI wondered that for a while, too. But there is a forgot password link, actually. You just have to enter your username and leave the password field blank, and then hit "login." You'll then be presented with a link to get a newly-generated password in an email.
- muddylemon 14y agoThat's... intuitive.
- SkyMarshal 14y agoIt's not supposed to be, it's a hacker filter. Same with the color scheme, design, etc.
- BadLogInMyAss 14y agoThat "design" seriously undermines the credibility of a tech site.
- ojbyrne 14y agoI think that it's not just blank passwords, incorrect ones too.
- kmfrk 14y agoHmm, I just get a "Bad login." response as usual - regardless of the browser.
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- bravura 14y agoPerhaps related.... The past few days I've gotten several emails from 'info@ycombinator.com' telling me that I have a new password. (I received several new passwords in the past few days.) The header seems to indicate that the message was actually sent from news.ycombinator.com. Are these legit? Why am I receiving them? Has anyone else got one? I've ignored them for now.
- Hannan 14y agoIf you try to log in with a valid username, but no password, you'll get a link to email yourself a newly generated password. The text of the email is: New Hacker News pw: <new password> So someone probably thinks they have your username and are wondering why they can't remember the password or receive an new password. Far less likely is that someone could be trying to discover/exploit a timing attack on the forgotten password generation algorithm.
- biot 14y agoIf HN replaces your password with a random one when requesting a forgot password, that's a great way to denial of service someone -- just keep requesting new passwords every 10 seconds and they'll never be able to login. The better approach is to generate a secure password change link with an expiring change request token. Upon clicking the link, the token is validated and you're allowed to set a new password (or have one randomly generated). However, until the link is clicked and the token validated your old password should remain the same.
- Splines 14y ago> Far less likely is that someone could be trying to discover/exploit a timing attack on the forgotten password generation algorithm. Didn't somebody do that already?
- eli 14y agoIt was the session cookie key not the password, and it wasn't really a timing attack in the sense the parent means. But yeah http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=639976 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=639976
- pauljonas 14y agoHN Search is broken too, or stopped updating circa 5 days ago… …makes the site _much_ less useful for me, I must confess.
- teeray 14y agoseriously... I have it as an autocomplete in chrome: hn[tab] and I can get community-vetted stuff ^_^
- Mz 14y agoI have been a tad out of the loop. Can someone clue me as to what LinkedIn thingy is being referred to? Thanks.