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The fight is not over yet, if you live in the EU, please vote these people out of office. They do not represent you, nor the general public.

avianlyric 2y ago
You can’t vote Council Members out of office. The council is made up of the heads of state for each member country. Depending on the exact flavour of democracy your state operates, will determine if their role is directly elected or not. There are many countries where the head state isn’t directly elected, and even where they are directly elected, there many more pressing national issues that make other candidates even more unsavoury.
- toyg 2y ago
  > You can’t vote Council Members out of office. Well, technically you can, just not through EU institutions. Chances are the current French members, for example, will not be there for the next round of Council votes.
- margana 2y ago
  This is not correct. At least in most (did not check every country) countries that do not directly elect the head of state, the head of government (who is directly elected) is the council member instead. Edit: of the 27 council members who are the representatives of their respective countries, only 4 are heads of state (all of them directly elected), the other 23 are heads of government, who are directly elected.
  - avianlyric 2y ago
    Even heads of government are often not directly elected. Plenty of parliamentary democracies select their head of government based on which ever party got the most votes, and thus their leader becomes the head of government. In Germany for example you don’t vote for the chancellor directly, you vote for local politicians and nation wide parties, and the winning party or coalition then decides who becomes the head of government. But at no point is there a direct vote to choose the chancellor.
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The fight is not over yet, if you live in the EU, please vote these people out of office. They do not represent you, nor the general public.

by cescott997 2y ago

avianlyric 2y ago
You can’t vote Council Members out of office. The council is made up of the heads of state for each member country. Depending on the exact flavour of democracy your state operates, will determine if their role is directly elected or not. There are many countries where the head state isn’t directly elected, and even where they are directly elected, there many more pressing national issues that make other candidates even more unsavoury.
- toyg 2y ago
  > You can’t vote Council Members out of office. Well, technically you can, just not through EU institutions. Chances are the current French members, for example, will not be there for the next round of Council votes.
- margana 2y ago
  This is not correct. At least in most (did not check every country) countries that do not directly elect the head of state, the head of government (who is directly elected) is the council member instead. Edit: of the 27 council members who are the representatives of their respective countries, only 4 are heads of state (all of them directly elected), the other 23 are heads of government, who are directly elected.
  - avianlyric 2y ago
    Even heads of government are often not directly elected. Plenty of parliamentary democracies select their head of government based on which ever party got the most votes, and thus their leader becomes the head of government. In Germany for example you don’t vote for the chancellor directly, you vote for local politicians and nation wide parties, and the winning party or coalition then decides who becomes the head of government. But at no point is there a direct vote to choose the chancellor.
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