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And you know, fund lobbyists. Shocking I know, but it's not just corporations who have lobbyists, NGOs too.

by bux93 2y ago

toomuchtodo 2y ago
I've been donating forever to Signal, and at this point, I'm resigned that it won't reach WhatsApp parity. Just hire some lobbyists to keep encrypted communications legal as a human right.
- Renaud 2y ago
  That wouldn’t help. The proposal “got around” weakening encryption without outright removing it. They “just” wanted anything you sent to be scanned before it was sent encrypted. Stupid and dangerous, the even have sections in the proposal that talk about encryption being important, but somehow less important than thinking about the children and putting a cop looking over the shoulder of every single citizen.
moffkalast 2y ago
That's like saying only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun. The solution is to remove guns/lobbyists, not attempting to beat them at their own game because you will absolutely lose.
- WaitWaitWha 2y ago
  With your solution bureaucrats only have access to registered lobbyist to be eliminated. Bribery remains.
- int_19h 2y ago
  It's only a solution if you actually have the means to do so. If you do not, then the best you can do is to learn to play the game as best you can, so that at least you won't lose quite so badly.
Log_out_ 2y ago
I wonder why NGO advice does not correlate with decision directions at all. Remember the CCC talks by NGO lobbists, usually culminating for everything they do in a"anyway that was what we advised, they however would vote/do/the thing we advised against". Had a huge speakerscorner going nowhere vibe and europes youth kicked that play pretend democracy in the nuts last election.
cG_ 2y ago
I've started donating to EDRi[1] for this reason. [1] https://edri.org/about-us/who-we-are/ https://edri.org/about-us/who-we-are/

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And you know, fund lobbyists. Shocking I know, but it's not just corporations who have lobbyists, NGOs too.

by bux93 2y ago

And you know, fund lobbyists. Shocking I know, but it's not just corporations who have lobbyists, NGOs too.

toomuchtodo 2y ago
I've been donating forever to Signal, and at this point, I'm resigned that it won't reach WhatsApp parity. Just hire some lobbyists to keep encrypted communications legal as a human right.
- Renaud 2y ago
  That wouldn’t help. The proposal “got around” weakening encryption without outright removing it. They “just” wanted anything you sent to be scanned before it was sent encrypted. Stupid and dangerous, the even have sections in the proposal that talk about encryption being important, but somehow less important than thinking about the children and putting a cop looking over the shoulder of every single citizen.
moffkalast 2y ago
That's like saying only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun. The solution is to remove guns/lobbyists, not attempting to beat them at their own game because you will absolutely lose.
- WaitWaitWha 2y ago
  With your solution bureaucrats only have access to registered lobbyist to be eliminated. Bribery remains.
- int_19h 2y ago
  It's only a solution if you actually have the means to do so. If you do not, then the best you can do is to learn to play the game as best you can, so that at least you won't lose quite so badly.
Log_out_ 2y ago
I wonder why NGO advice does not correlate with decision directions at all. Remember the CCC talks by NGO lobbists, usually culminating for everything they do in a"anyway that was what we advised, they however would vote/do/the thing we advised against". Had a huge speakerscorner going nowhere vibe and europes youth kicked that play pretend democracy in the nuts last election.
cG_ 2y ago
I've started donating to EDRi[1] for this reason. [1] https://edri.org/about-us/who-we-are/ https://edri.org/about-us/who-we-are/