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This time the proposal got canned because Germany said they would vote against it. Unless that changes it isn't going to make any progress. A lot of Germans st
by eigenket 2y ago
This time the proposal got canned because Germany said they would vote against it. Unless that changes it isn't going to make any progress.
A lot of Germans still remember the Stazi, so its pretty unlikely that this shit is going to pass.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> the proposal got canned because Germany said they would vote against it Both the far left and right in Germany are against this, correct?
- eigenket 2y agoI'm far from an expert in German politics, but there are obvious historical reasons why Germans like the idea of having a right to privacy.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> there are obvious historical reasons why Germans like the idea of having a right to privacy There are obvious historical reasons why they shouldn't try far-right, race-based politics, yet here we are [1]. [1] https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/rise-germanys-most-successful-far-right-party-since-nazis-2023-06-07/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/rise-germanys-most-succ...
- flawn 2y agoI don't even understand why people never look and understand the history that happened outside of their country. Just the sheer risk of having a society like in the DDR is reason enough to not do stuff like that. We never learn (long-term) from the past.
- soco 2y agoA sizeable part of Germany is nostalgic after the good ole times, be it of 50 years ago or of 90 years ago. You can see them at the voting booths.
- 1992spacemovie 2y ago[flagged]
- moe_sc 2y agoFunny you'd say something like this, after somebody made a comment about "sizeable parts" and never an absolute statement.
- DocTomoe 2y agoSee also: Ostalgie (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostalgie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostalgie)
- pkos98 2y agotwo of the three coalition parties are against it - the greens and the FDP (the social democrats are in favour), thus the government doesnt support. they are neither far left/right
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> they are neither far left/right Are Linke and AfD are for chat control? They're by whom the coalition is being threatened.
- Tainnor 2y agoThe current government coalition is threatened by the CDU (centre-right), not by Linke (that has almost no voters left) or AfD (who no other party wants to form a coalition with). The most likely outcome after the next election at this point looks like a coalition between the CDU and the Green party. Unfortunately, CDU is probably in favour (they're pretty "law and order") and the Greens probably won't care enough to oppose strongly.
- DasIch 2y agoDie Linke (far left), Greens (left), FDP (socially liberal-ish but economically further right than CDU) and AFD (far right) are against it. SPD (left) is internally conflicted about this topic. CDU (right) is in favour. So essentially everyone who isn't very into law and order type politics and cares about civil rights is against this, regardless of where they are on the political spectrum. This is typical for such issues in Germany.
- nebalee 2y ago> So essentially everyone who isn't very into law and order type politics and cares about civil rights is against this, regardless of where they are on the political spectrum. That does not apply to the afd.
- DocTomoe 2y agoGerman parties always are against something until they are in power, then they magically have changed their minds or agree "with stomach pain"...