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Not really. Most of us just get on with our work happily. There's a small but vocal minority who have been crying about the direction for 13 years, but still w

Not really. Most of us just get on with our work happily. There's a small but vocal minority who have been crying about the direction for 13 years, but still want to use it. Must be doing some things right.

robinsonb5 2y ago
> crying about the direction for 13 years, but still want to use it. Part it is the frustation of seeing it come so close to being a viable replacement for Windows back in the mid-2000s, only to jump the shark and become something we wouldn't use ourselves, let alone recommend to a would-be Windows refugee. (To be clear, I'm not saying it's unusable now - but I was shocked by just how slow and unresponsive the first version of Gnome 3 was.) Unfortunately Gnome doesn't exist in a vacuum, and decisions made there do impact the rest of us - thanks to Gtk it's getting harder and harder to avoid the ingress of hamburger menus into desktop-oriented software - even developer / technical focussed stuff like a text editor VCD waveform viewer.
- tristan957 2y ago
  GTK supports a menubar, so I don't understand your concern.
wycy 2y ago
Some of us are forced to use it because Red Hat removed support for KDE. Being forced to switch from KDE to Gnome was a very painful transition. Having the Dash to Panel and Dash to Dock extensions was the only thing that made it palatable. Vanilla Gnome may be fine as a streamlined tablet OS for casual web browsing but it is not suitable to doing real desktop work.
- tuna74 2y ago
  Why not? What are you missing?
  - petepete 2y ago
    Sounds like a skill issue.
  - wycy 2y ago
    A proper taskbar. Needing to install a third party extension to achieve the type of taskbar that has been expected from desktop OSes for the past 20 years is lunacy. I was fortunate to be able to get my IT dept to allow third party extensions when we moved to RHEL 8, but I'm sure most in the corporate world aren't so fortunate.

robinsonb5 2y ago

> crying about the direction for 13 years, but still want to use it. Part it is the frustation of seeing it come so close to being a viable replacement for Windows back in the mid-2000s, only to jump the shark and become something we wouldn't use ourselves, let alone recommend to a would-be Windows refugee. (To be clear, I'm not saying it's unusable now - but I was shocked by just how slow and unresponsive the first version of Gnome 3 was.) Unfortunately Gnome doesn't exist in a vacuum, and decisions made there do impact the rest of us - thanks to Gtk it's getting harder and harder to avoid the ingress of hamburger menus into desktop-oriented software - even developer / technical focussed stuff like a text editor VCD waveform viewer.

tristan957 2y ago
GTK supports a menubar, so I don't understand your concern.

wycy 2y ago

Some of us are forced to use it because Red Hat removed support for KDE. Being forced to switch from KDE to Gnome was a very painful transition. Having the Dash to Panel and Dash to Dock extensions was the only thing that made it palatable. Vanilla Gnome may be fine as a streamlined tablet OS for casual web browsing but it is not suitable to doing real desktop work.

tuna74 2y ago
Why not? What are you missing?
- petepete 2y ago
  Sounds like a skill issue.
- wycy 2y ago
  A proper taskbar. Needing to install a third party extension to achieve the type of taskbar that has been expected from desktop OSes for the past 20 years is lunacy. I was fortunate to be able to get my IT dept to allow third party extensions when we moved to RHEL 8, but I'm sure most in the corporate world aren't so fortunate.