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There are many ways we don't give children the same rights as adults. They might want confidential communication, but I'm not sure they should have it. Why are

There are many ways we don't give children the same rights as adults. They might want confidential communication, but I'm not sure they should have it. Why are you so sure that it is better and more versatile to educate them and their parents? We've been educating children, and parents, basically forever (and I've done a lot of educating of children myself). While they are young and still learning, I really believe they do need a mixture of freedom and guard-rails, to ensure they can't do themselves too much harm while still developing.

kaba0 2y ago
And who exactly is a children? Because teenagers infantilization is a grave issue in the US, where they can in several states buy guns and die for their country, but can’t drink a beer, and they having sex with their peers is somehow viewed as wrong. A ~15 years old absolutely should have every right to private communication.
squigz 2y ago
> They might want confidential communication, but I'm not sure they should have it. Why not? Assuming you're using a Western metric of what a child is, why does a 17 year old not have the right to private communication, but an 18 year old does? Furthermore, why do you think corporations are going to be like "Oh, this person is 18 now. We're going to respect their privacy now!"?
- gambiting 2y ago
  Well, for the exact same reason why in many western countries we decide that 17 year olds are not capable of consenting to sex, but 18 year olds are, same with driving a car, drinking alcohol or smoking cigarettes - the cut off is somewhat arbitrary but there has to be one. If it's not 18 then what other age is appropriate? Or do you believe that a child of any age should have access to completely confidential communication outside of a medical setting?
  - squigz 2y ago
    > Or do you believe that a child of any age should have access to completely confidential communication outside of a medical setting? Confidential from governments/corporations/people that aren't their parents? Yes, absolutely.

kaba0 2y ago

And who exactly is a children? Because teenagers infantilization is a grave issue in the US, where they can in several states buy guns and die for their country, but can’t drink a beer, and they having sex with their peers is somehow viewed as wrong. A ~15 years old absolutely should have every right to private communication.

squigz 2y ago

> They might want confidential communication, but I'm not sure they should have it. Why not? Assuming you're using a Western metric of what a child is, why does a 17 year old not have the right to private communication, but an 18 year old does? Furthermore, why do you think corporations are going to be like "Oh, this person is 18 now. We're going to respect their privacy now!"?

gambiting 2y ago
Well, for the exact same reason why in many western countries we decide that 17 year olds are not capable of consenting to sex, but 18 year olds are, same with driving a car, drinking alcohol or smoking cigarettes - the cut off is somewhat arbitrary but there has to be one. If it's not 18 then what other age is appropriate? Or do you believe that a child of any age should have access to completely confidential communication outside of a medical setting?
- squigz 2y ago
  > Or do you believe that a child of any age should have access to completely confidential communication outside of a medical setting? Confidential from governments/corporations/people that aren't their parents? Yes, absolutely.