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if you want a free version of the Suse stack there is leap https://get.opensuse.org/leap https://get.opensuse.org/leap I think for personal use or very small b

by yayr 2y ago

if you want a free version of the Suse stack there is leap https://get.opensuse.org/leap https://get.opensuse.org/leap I think for personal use or very small businesses that should be good enough. It is also quite straightforward to switch between leap and SLES and back if you decide to switch your support setup.

brnt 2y ago
Leap is a dead end though.
- atiedebee 2y ago
  How so? 15.6 was just released
  - brnt 2y ago
    It was released after community pushback on 15.5 being the last. Then they are now calling something Leap 16, but it hasnt much tot do with Leap: https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/17/opensuse_confirms_leap_16/ https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/17/opensuse_confirms_lea...
    - yayr 2y ago
      It seems that SUSE wants to shift its enterprise offering to ALP (adaptable linux platform) instead of the legacy SLE platform to better support modern workloads. https://www.suse.com/c/suse-salp-raises-the-bar-on-confidential-computing/ https://www.suse.com/c/suse-salp-raises-the-bar-on-confident... it makes sense to then also shift the open source stream in that direction, which is happening with Leap 16.
      - brnt 2y ago
        It was announced after the end of Leap was proclaimed, again feeding suspicion that Leap 16 is meant to save some goodwill rather than part of a solid plan of supporting users. It all looks opportunistic, the total opposite of what users of such distros expect. You can built out your use of it at your peril.
    - lproven 2y ago
      That's my article, FWIW. I got a lot of unhappy feedback from SUSE for it, but they did not deliver solid tech info I asked for, even given 2 days to do so. TL;DR summary: they're focussing on immutable distros now, but unlike rival efforts such as Endless (Debian + OStree) or immutable Fedora (OStree all the way down) or Ubuntu Core (Snap all the way down), SUSE implemented transactional packaging using Btrfs snapshots and plain old RPM. So, underneath, it's structured pretty much the same as conventional SUSE. That means you can turn the immutability function off, if desired, and be left with something quite conventional.

by yayr 2y ago

brnt 2y ago

Leap is a dead end though.

atiedebee 2y ago
How so? 15.6 was just released
- brnt 2y ago
  It was released after community pushback on 15.5 being the last. Then they are now calling something Leap 16, but it hasnt much tot do with Leap: https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/17/opensuse_confirms_leap_16/ https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/17/opensuse_confirms_lea...
  - yayr 2y ago
    It seems that SUSE wants to shift its enterprise offering to ALP (adaptable linux platform) instead of the legacy SLE platform to better support modern workloads. https://www.suse.com/c/suse-salp-raises-the-bar-on-confidential-computing/ https://www.suse.com/c/suse-salp-raises-the-bar-on-confident... it makes sense to then also shift the open source stream in that direction, which is happening with Leap 16.
    - brnt 2y ago
      It was announced after the end of Leap was proclaimed, again feeding suspicion that Leap 16 is meant to save some goodwill rather than part of a solid plan of supporting users. It all looks opportunistic, the total opposite of what users of such distros expect. You can built out your use of it at your peril.
  - lproven 2y ago
    That's my article, FWIW. I got a lot of unhappy feedback from SUSE for it, but they did not deliver solid tech info I asked for, even given 2 days to do so. TL;DR summary: they're focussing on immutable distros now, but unlike rival efforts such as Endless (Debian + OStree) or immutable Fedora (OStree all the way down) or Ubuntu Core (Snap all the way down), SUSE implemented transactional packaging using Btrfs snapshots and plain old RPM. So, underneath, it's structured pretty much the same as conventional SUSE. That means you can turn the immutability function off, if desired, and be left with something quite conventional.