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I do use Apple devices, I'm not a fan of Apple as a company for many reasons. Though just because I don't like a company doesn't mean that I can't agree with t

I do use Apple devices, I'm not a fan of Apple as a company for many reasons. Though just because I don't like a company doesn't mean that I can't agree with them at one point. EU shouldn't have right to decide on a company's own design. (Unless it's medical, military etc.)

lucianbr 2y ago
I wonder how well Apple would sell phones if radio spectrum was unregulated and anyone would be allowed to design and build devices that emit radio waves on any wavelength at any power. After all, this is the world you want, where governments aren't allowed to decide companies' designs. My guess is cellular telephony would not exist at all in this world.
- can16358p 2y ago
  That example would pollute the EM spectrum, a public resource. A company with its own ecosystem and design doesn't.
  - lucianbr 2y ago
    You pretend to have a principle that the government should not interfere, but you carve out an exception whenever the principle bothers Apple. You'll always find something, I'm sure.
  - benwad 2y ago
    Proprietary charging cables lead to more e-waste, which is a public externality as well.
  - mesebrec 2y ago
    The reasoning is that apple's marketplace is such a central cornerstone to digital life that it becomes a public resource.
  - piltdownman 2y ago
    And proprietary chargers, particularly multiple revisions within a single product line, pollute the actual ecosystem. Regulation at the EU level - outside of their moral crusade regarding e2e encryption - tends to be more about combatting planned obsolescence and promoting CSR at the expense of an increased BOM. These are symptoms of the actual problem with US based MNCs which lies with at the US Federal level, characterised by rabid lobbying for deregulation and genuflecting at the altar of fiduciary responsibility to shareholders.
RandomLensman 2y ago
What the EU should or should not have the power to do is up the citizens there (but they have to live with the consequences of that, too).

lucianbr 2y ago

I wonder how well Apple would sell phones if radio spectrum was unregulated and anyone would be allowed to design and build devices that emit radio waves on any wavelength at any power. After all, this is the world you want, where governments aren't allowed to decide companies' designs. My guess is cellular telephony would not exist at all in this world.

can16358p 2y ago
That example would pollute the EM spectrum, a public resource. A company with its own ecosystem and design doesn't.
- lucianbr 2y ago
  You pretend to have a principle that the government should not interfere, but you carve out an exception whenever the principle bothers Apple. You'll always find something, I'm sure.
- benwad 2y ago
  Proprietary charging cables lead to more e-waste, which is a public externality as well.
- mesebrec 2y ago
  The reasoning is that apple's marketplace is such a central cornerstone to digital life that it becomes a public resource.
- piltdownman 2y ago
  And proprietary chargers, particularly multiple revisions within a single product line, pollute the actual ecosystem. Regulation at the EU level - outside of their moral crusade regarding e2e encryption - tends to be more about combatting planned obsolescence and promoting CSR at the expense of an increased BOM. These are symptoms of the actual problem with US based MNCs which lies with at the US Federal level, characterised by rabid lobbying for deregulation and genuflecting at the altar of fiduciary responsibility to shareholders.

RandomLensman 2y ago

What the EU should or should not have the power to do is up the citizens there (but they have to live with the consequences of that, too).