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Why blame people skeptical of psychiatry for affordability issues when you could just blame big pharma? Wouldn't that actually make sense? The fact that you men

Why blame people skeptical of psychiatry for affordability issues when you could just blame big pharma? Wouldn't that actually make sense? The fact that you mention the former but not the latter makes you lose a lot of credibility Or I guess, if you have skin in the game, it does make sense to criticize the people criticizing the game instead of the people perpetuating it > in this hypercapitalist healthcare system (speaking of the USA specifically here), whether or not it is “worthy” of care What's more hypercapitalist than this "ask your doctor" shit? If I was a pharmaceutical company, it would be in my financial best interest to deem as many people eligible as possible. If I was an admin at some mental health thing somewhere, it would be in my financial best interest to make sure as many people buy into it as possible

JohnMakin 2y ago
I never advocated “ask your doctor shit”, whatever that means, and I think you have severely misunderstood the post you are responding to. Regarding big pharma, they are certainly to blame, but you don’t really see similar types of discussions regarding purely physical ailments like cancer. As I said in my comments I am approaching this as a moderator for mental health groups where this type of discussion frequently arises and to point out a line of reasoning I frequently have to deal with.
- andoando 2y ago
  There's plenty of skepticism of corporate influence in health care. I am skeptical of anything where money is involved. Cancer is an extreme example here because being 1. Based on hard physical evidence and 2. having a huge liability for misdiagnosis, doctors/hospitals would be in huge trouble if they diagnosed you with cancer and gave you chemo when you did not have it. This serves as a check against pharmaceutical interests. Mental diagnoses/treatment on the other hand is mostly done in independent offices, private practices, and in prisons/institutions on committed people, and it carries very little risk if misdiagnosed. With adhd its even worse, because its often a diagnosis a patient seeks. I really don't understand where you're coming from. It seems you don't want people to criticize psychiatry because it makes some people feel bad not having the validation of these disorders being a totally legit, agreed upon science? I think that's taking the completely wrong angle, like I said I am diagnosed and I don't feel bad about it one bit despite all my opinions here.

JohnMakin 2y ago

I never advocated “ask your doctor shit”, whatever that means, and I think you have severely misunderstood the post you are responding to. Regarding big pharma, they are certainly to blame, but you don’t really see similar types of discussions regarding purely physical ailments like cancer. As I said in my comments I am approaching this as a moderator for mental health groups where this type of discussion frequently arises and to point out a line of reasoning I frequently have to deal with.

andoando 2y ago
There's plenty of skepticism of corporate influence in health care. I am skeptical of anything where money is involved. Cancer is an extreme example here because being 1. Based on hard physical evidence and 2. having a huge liability for misdiagnosis, doctors/hospitals would be in huge trouble if they diagnosed you with cancer and gave you chemo when you did not have it. This serves as a check against pharmaceutical interests. Mental diagnoses/treatment on the other hand is mostly done in independent offices, private practices, and in prisons/institutions on committed people, and it carries very little risk if misdiagnosed. With adhd its even worse, because its often a diagnosis a patient seeks. I really don't understand where you're coming from. It seems you don't want people to criticize psychiatry because it makes some people feel bad not having the validation of these disorders being a totally legit, agreed upon science? I think that's taking the completely wrong angle, like I said I am diagnosed and I don't feel bad about it one bit despite all my opinions here.