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I don't see how AI, quantum and block chain are at all equivalent. Block chain has no use. AI and quantum hage obvious uses if they work. Quantum is not clos

I don't see how AI, quantum and block chain are at all equivalent. Block chain has no use. AI and quantum hage obvious uses if they work. Quantum is not close to working now. It's where AI was at in the 80s/90s. AI may not be perfect but there is no denying that the GPTs were a dramatic shift.

zer00eyz 2y ago
> GPTs were a dramatic shift IT was a massive leap forward for a 50 year old idea. IF it takes another 50 years to make a leap of equal size, we might get to AGI before the heat death of the the universe. > I don't see how AI, quantum and block chain are at all equivalent. If we shut them off tomorrow what do YOU need to replace in your life without them?
- anon291 2y ago
  > If we shut them off tomorrow what do YOU need to replace in your life without them? A translator and editor would be nice? I use GPT to give feedback on my writing. It works well, especially suggesting other ways to word things. This is something I didn't even know I needed. There are all kinds of other uses. It has offered advice to me on programming language design, approaches to math proofs, etc. Again, I don't NEED these things, but yes it makes it a lot easier to have that there. Just like I don't NEED google. I could scan through hundreds of thousands of websites or hire someone else to do it. But it's just easier to do that myself.
financltravsty 2y ago
Blockchain is used as a stand-in financial system for those who don't or can't use the incumbent ones (for banking, commerce, gambling, and so on). AI is nowhere close to delivering on its promises. But it's pretty useful for many tasks. Quantum computers are vaporware. Quantum sensors are already here and game-changing. But just like AI, has failed to live up to hype. --- Crypto is already here and makes good on its promises: decentralized finance. Full disclosure: I do not own any crypto besides negligible sums in forgotten wallets.
cfeduke 2y ago
> I don't see how AI, quantum and block chain are at all equivalent. It's not that there is any claim to equivalency, its that these are the technology trends that are most useful - the trend itself, nevermind any sort of usable technology - for those who grift.
- tavavex 2y ago
  It's not an uncommon argument to try and draw parallels between these - X was a fairly useless, yet extremely speculative new tech scam, and Y is speculative new tech. Therefore Y is also a useless scam, QED. There's a difference between something being an extremely hyped development and it being an actual grift down to the core. The internet was an extremely overhyped development, but ultimately not a grift. Cryptocurrency was, to a large extent, both. Whether generative AI is one or the other won't be apparent until a bubble truly starts growing.
  - kjkjadksj 2y ago
    Something can be both a good development and overhyped grift. You have to keep in mind that for a lot of people and their businesses, the grift is literally the entire angle. Not building a technology. Not building a 100 year old business. But to get rich fast as you can while you have the opportunity, tech and business be damned. Ironically, both the real technologists and the grifters benefit from this preaching of misleading overstatements and half truths from the rooftop. It’s therefore tolerated almost as a funding mechanism for the industry at large. Mac os 15, same as it ever was now with AI under the hood. Sounds like a good seller to me.

zer00eyz 2y ago

> GPTs were a dramatic shift IT was a massive leap forward for a 50 year old idea. IF it takes another 50 years to make a leap of equal size, we might get to AGI before the heat death of the the universe. > I don't see how AI, quantum and block chain are at all equivalent. If we shut them off tomorrow what do YOU need to replace in your life without them?

anon291 2y ago
> If we shut them off tomorrow what do YOU need to replace in your life without them? A translator and editor would be nice? I use GPT to give feedback on my writing. It works well, especially suggesting other ways to word things. This is something I didn't even know I needed. There are all kinds of other uses. It has offered advice to me on programming language design, approaches to math proofs, etc. Again, I don't NEED these things, but yes it makes it a lot easier to have that there. Just like I don't NEED google. I could scan through hundreds of thousands of websites or hire someone else to do it. But it's just easier to do that myself.

financltravsty 2y ago

Blockchain is used as a stand-in financial system for those who don't or can't use the incumbent ones (for banking, commerce, gambling, and so on). AI is nowhere close to delivering on its promises. But it's pretty useful for many tasks. Quantum computers are vaporware. Quantum sensors are already here and game-changing. But just like AI, has failed to live up to hype. --- Crypto is already here and makes good on its promises: decentralized finance. Full disclosure: I do not own any crypto besides negligible sums in forgotten wallets.

cfeduke 2y ago

> I don't see how AI, quantum and block chain are at all equivalent. It's not that there is any claim to equivalency, its that these are the technology trends that are most useful - the trend itself, nevermind any sort of usable technology - for those who grift.

tavavex 2y ago
It's not an uncommon argument to try and draw parallels between these - X was a fairly useless, yet extremely speculative new tech scam, and Y is speculative new tech. Therefore Y is also a useless scam, QED. There's a difference between something being an extremely hyped development and it being an actual grift down to the core. The internet was an extremely overhyped development, but ultimately not a grift. Cryptocurrency was, to a large extent, both. Whether generative AI is one or the other won't be apparent until a bubble truly starts growing.
- kjkjadksj 2y ago
  Something can be both a good development and overhyped grift. You have to keep in mind that for a lot of people and their businesses, the grift is literally the entire angle. Not building a technology. Not building a 100 year old business. But to get rich fast as you can while you have the opportunity, tech and business be damned. Ironically, both the real technologists and the grifters benefit from this preaching of misleading overstatements and half truths from the rooftop. It’s therefore tolerated almost as a funding mechanism for the industry at large. Mac os 15, same as it ever was now with AI under the hood. Sounds like a good seller to me.