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I abhor the style and disagree with most of their comments.

by oofbey 2y ago

dang 2y ago
You deserve credit for saying that so even-keeledly. Usually people just do the same thing back.
- highlaif 2y ago
  Did you shadowban me for asking a question about frontpage ranking? That's a bit ridiculous, don't you think?
  - dang 2y ago
    It would indeed be ridiculous; also stupid and counterproductive. Those could be clues to the fact that we didn't do it. Some of your comments are getting killed by software filters. Those are tuned more strictly for new accounts, for reasons which aren't hard to figure out. I don't think any mods even saw your comments (before now)
    - highlaif 2y ago
      Well, thank you software filters. Are you sure they're working correctly because all my comments except my first are getting killed. What did I do? This is no fun.
- pushfoo 2y ago
  TL;DR: Do you have a stance on HN's change in culture? It seems like HN comments are shifting from technical focus toward: * Early Reddit's low-effort but tame "snark" * Aggressively moralizing posts dismissing sardonic criticism as dangerous mental illness I haven't seen much of OP's style lately, especially since n-gate[1] went inactive. I'm wondering whether that's a bad thing. Although the tone is hostile on the surface, there's usually some aspiration toward competence associated with it. [1]: http://n-gate.com/ http://n-gate.com/
  - AtlasBarfed 2y ago
    n-gate was the best. Referencing it was always worth the downvotes. I get we are semi-autistic nerds and can't appreciate comedy/satire/sarcasm, but comedy/satire/sarcasm is a potent means of criticism and analysis, especially since we are in an ever-increasing torrent of bullshit.
    - kjkjadksj 2y ago
      HN is a bit too serious I think. More comedy would be better than the usual cynicism which can bleed over into your mindset even after visiting the site. You are what you read, after all. Maybe even this comment comes off as cynical; no doubt I’ve been infected too.
      - AtlasBarfed 2y ago
        What the world needs very badly in the generative spam world is a healthy dose of skepticism. What qualifies as skepticism versus cynicism is often in the eye of the beholder.
  - dang 2y ago
    I don't think it's changed much. I think perceptions of the kind you're describing (HN is turning into reddit, comments are getting worse, etc.) are more a statement about the perceiver than about HN itself, which to me seems same-as-it-ever-was. I don't know, however.
    - pushfoo 2y ago
      TL;DR: I think you're right. Ty for maintaining HN! > are more a statement about the perceiver than about HN itself I may have some rose tint to my oldest memories of lurking HN. Not only was I younger, but I was also seeing hours-old threads instead of comments arriving in real-time before any sorting or flagging. In other words, thank you for maintaining the site all these years.
      - 2y ago

I abhor the style and disagree with most of their comments.

by oofbey 2y ago

I abhor the style and disagree with most of their comments.

dang 2y ago

You deserve credit for saying that so even-keeledly. Usually people just do the same thing back.

highlaif 2y ago
Did you shadowban me for asking a question about frontpage ranking? That's a bit ridiculous, don't you think?
- dang 2y ago
  It would indeed be ridiculous; also stupid and counterproductive. Those could be clues to the fact that we didn't do it. Some of your comments are getting killed by software filters. Those are tuned more strictly for new accounts, for reasons which aren't hard to figure out. I don't think any mods even saw your comments (before now)
  - highlaif 2y ago
    Well, thank you software filters. Are you sure they're working correctly because all my comments except my first are getting killed. What did I do? This is no fun.
pushfoo 2y ago
TL;DR: Do you have a stance on HN's change in culture? It seems like HN comments are shifting from technical focus toward: * Early Reddit's low-effort but tame "snark" * Aggressively moralizing posts dismissing sardonic criticism as dangerous mental illness I haven't seen much of OP's style lately, especially since n-gate[1] went inactive. I'm wondering whether that's a bad thing. Although the tone is hostile on the surface, there's usually some aspiration toward competence associated with it. [1]: http://n-gate.com/ http://n-gate.com/
- AtlasBarfed 2y ago
  n-gate was the best. Referencing it was always worth the downvotes. I get we are semi-autistic nerds and can't appreciate comedy/satire/sarcasm, but comedy/satire/sarcasm is a potent means of criticism and analysis, especially since we are in an ever-increasing torrent of bullshit.
  - kjkjadksj 2y ago
    HN is a bit too serious I think. More comedy would be better than the usual cynicism which can bleed over into your mindset even after visiting the site. You are what you read, after all. Maybe even this comment comes off as cynical; no doubt I’ve been infected too.
    - AtlasBarfed 2y ago
      What the world needs very badly in the generative spam world is a healthy dose of skepticism. What qualifies as skepticism versus cynicism is often in the eye of the beholder.
- dang 2y ago
  I don't think it's changed much. I think perceptions of the kind you're describing (HN is turning into reddit, comments are getting worse, etc.) are more a statement about the perceiver than about HN itself, which to me seems same-as-it-ever-was. I don't know, however.
  - pushfoo 2y ago
    TL;DR: I think you're right. Ty for maintaining HN! > are more a statement about the perceiver than about HN itself I may have some rose tint to my oldest memories of lurking HN. Not only was I younger, but I was also seeing hours-old threads instead of comments arriving in real-time before any sorting or flagging. In other words, thank you for maintaining the site all these years.
    - 2y ago