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I've been using the original fish[1] for years. I'm very biased, I love fish for many reasons and despite the claims that zsh can do the same things I've never

by llambda 14y ago

I've been using the original fish[1] for years. I'm very biased, I love fish for many reasons and despite the claims that zsh can do the same things I've never had cause to switch from it. Now it was quite disappointing to see the original fish project seemingly halted. So this isn't simply great news, in the sense that development has been picked back up in the fishfish fork, some great improvements have been made at the same time! * autosuggestion (this actually has a great amount of utility for me. it complements tab-completion quite well!) * optional web-based config (great for quickly editing your config settings) * speed improvements (although I never suffered from much lag with fish to begin with) Overall I think the usability and utility of fish is greatly improved in this fork. Also it's worth pointing out that in terms of out-of-box functionality, some of fishfish features would be very hard to match. Things like autocompletion and simple history scrollback based one partial string matching set fish apart from the pack imo. So far, I'm quite impressed and I hope that more people adopt fishfish as the de facto replacement for fish. [1] http://fishshell.com/ http://fishshell.com/

g3orge 14y ago
can zsh autocomplete man pages?
- jeekl 14y ago
  Yes it can. Add something like this to your zsh config: zstyle ':completion:*:manuals' separate-sections true zstyle ':completion:*:manuals.*' insert-sections true zstyle ':completion:*:man:*' menu yes select
  - trebuch3t 14y ago
    That's it. This thread sold me. Installing zsh now!
    - AnthonBerg 14y ago
      Tried fish yet? I prefer it to zsh ...
  - fu86 14y ago
    This does not work for me. If I type "tree -" and press [tab], nothing happens.
- adimitrov 14y ago
  Yes. zsh can also auto-complete command line arguments for a lot of commonly used commands (including the GNU utilities, git, mutt, mplayer, imagemagick's convert and others.)
  - p4bl0 14y ago
    Bash too can do that. It does by default in Debian for instance, it also does cool things like autocompleting filenames based on which command is already typed (so it won't autocomplete to some pdf filename if the command is mplayer), autocompletion depending on config files (alias from ~/.ssh/config and /etc/hosts, remotes from the git config, package names when the command is apt-*…). About fish, for the history based autocompletion of commands, how is that different from Bash's C-r?
    - lobster_johnson 14y ago
      Bash has completion, of course, but does it have autocompletion? Big difference as getting completions without hitting the tab key changes how you interact with the line editor.
    - alextingle 14y ago
      Bash's auto completion is a child's toy compared to Zsh's.
      - jonshea 14y ago
        People say this kind of thing a lot, but I’m pretty sure it’s simply not true. bash-completion handles pretty much everything I can imagine already, and can be extended to handle anything you can express programmatically.
      - pferde 14y ago
        Care to back that FUD up with some proof?
  - sjs 14y ago
    And when it cannot complete arguments, just hit `ESC h` or Alt-h to get help on the current command you're typing. (See also: `ESC q` or Alt-q)
qznc 14y ago
Have they found a better way for setting environment variables for single commands? The following bash command looks quite ugly with fish: LANG=C foo

by llambda 14y ago

g3orge 14y ago

can zsh autocomplete man pages?

jeekl 14y ago
Yes it can. Add something like this to your zsh config: zstyle ':completion:*:manuals' separate-sections true zstyle ':completion:*:manuals.*' insert-sections true zstyle ':completion:*:man:*' menu yes select
- trebuch3t 14y ago
  That's it. This thread sold me. Installing zsh now!
  - AnthonBerg 14y ago
    Tried fish yet? I prefer it to zsh ...
- fu86 14y ago
  This does not work for me. If I type "tree -" and press [tab], nothing happens.
adimitrov 14y ago
Yes. zsh can also auto-complete command line arguments for a lot of commonly used commands (including the GNU utilities, git, mutt, mplayer, imagemagick's convert and others.)
- p4bl0 14y ago
  Bash too can do that. It does by default in Debian for instance, it also does cool things like autocompleting filenames based on which command is already typed (so it won't autocomplete to some pdf filename if the command is mplayer), autocompletion depending on config files (alias from ~/.ssh/config and /etc/hosts, remotes from the git config, package names when the command is apt-*…). About fish, for the history based autocompletion of commands, how is that different from Bash's C-r?
  - lobster_johnson 14y ago
    Bash has completion, of course, but does it have autocompletion? Big difference as getting completions without hitting the tab key changes how you interact with the line editor.
  - alextingle 14y ago
    Bash's auto completion is a child's toy compared to Zsh's.
    - jonshea 14y ago
      People say this kind of thing a lot, but I’m pretty sure it’s simply not true. bash-completion handles pretty much everything I can imagine already, and can be extended to handle anything you can express programmatically.
    - pferde 14y ago
      Care to back that FUD up with some proof?
- sjs 14y ago
  And when it cannot complete arguments, just hit `ESC h` or Alt-h to get help on the current command you're typing. (See also: `ESC q` or Alt-q)

qznc 14y ago

Have they found a better way for setting environment variables for single commands? The following bash command looks quite ugly with fish: LANG=C foo