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That’s already illegal. The problem is enforcement. Ever since the pandemic and the “defund the police” nonsense I’ve hardly seen the highway patrol on the road

by avalys 2y ago

That’s already illegal. The problem is enforcement. Ever since the pandemic and the “defund the police” nonsense I’ve hardly seen the highway patrol on the roads at all, much less pulling anyone over.

0xbadcafebee 2y ago
You don't need highway patrol at all for enforcement, we have cameras and radar. Just send them a ticket in the mail and impound their car after that (the same as Austria and Switzerland). We don't enforce it because we don't want to.
infecto 2y ago
This feels so true. I don't see enforcement across any of the portions of the US I travel. I rarely if ever see cars pulled over. It is a contrast to what I felt growing up.
thot_experiment 2y ago
You may be surprised to learn that we did not in fact defund the police. :thonking_face_emoji:
- hobotime 2y ago
  Seattle sure did. And it sucks. We lost 70% of the officers to other jurisdictions that don't hate them.
InitialLastName 2y ago
Which states defunded their police departments?
- hobotime 2y ago
  Don't matter, as police officers migrate to places that don't hate them. The Democrat stronghold cities have less police now than three years ago.
  - locopati 2y ago
    there's a difference between hating and wanting to rein in out of control criminal organizations
NotSammyHagar 2y ago
Actually defunding the police turned out to be something that didn't happen, at least from the democrats (who are still blamed for it). The main defunding was from the republican leadership in the house who insisted on reducing the budget or multiple federal law enforcement agencies, such as FBI and ATF. The republicans defunded the police. But the effective outcome of all the sound and fury is that police enforcement seems way way down. I can't understand why they allow so many drivers to go around with expired license plates and worse (no plates, hand written plates, etc). They just don't stop them any more. There was a claim that laws about safe pursuit were a reason to not stop them, then they reversed the laws, still happening). I'm very ticked about it.
- pandaman 2y ago
  What does the Congress have to do with police forces? What do FBI and ATF have to do with traffic enforcement? Actual police (one that enforces traffic laws) had actually been defunded and by democrats: 1. LA https://apnews.com/article/3ad962eb78e30975354f6036c6451022#:~:text=The%20Los%20Angeles%20City%20Council%20has%20voted%20to,a%20little%20more%20than%209%2C700%20by%20next%20summer https://apnews.com/article/3ad962eb78e30975354f6036c6451022#.... 2. NYC https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/01/us/new-york-budget-nypd-1-billion-cut-trnd/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/01/us/new-york-budget-nypd-1-bil... 3. Austin https://www.npr.org/2021/10/24/1048790508/officials-in-austin-cut-police-budgets-last-year-then-refunded-them-this-year https://www.npr.org/2021/10/24/1048790508/officials-in-austi... 4. Seattle https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/seattle-has-been-defunding-the-police-exactly-backward/ https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/seattle-h... 5. Portland https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/protests/defunding-portland-police-city-council-budget-15-million-cuts/283-239c5e3a-cfed-4dce-8775-d2c52a9df9aa https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/protests/defunding-po... I could go on.
janalsncm 2y ago
You don’t need police to enforce speed laws. You just need cameras, which have the advantages of being cheaper and safer. There are two kinds of speed camera systems. One uses two cameras in short succession to measure instantaneous speed. You can dodge this by slowing down right before it. The second uses the same concept but puts the cameras a mile or so apart to measure duration over that distance. This is harder to game.
- bluefirebrand 2y ago
  Speed laws aren't the thing we need to enforce. Reckless driving is You need traffic police to enforce reckless driving kaws

by avalys 2y ago

0xbadcafebee 2y ago

You don't need highway patrol at all for enforcement, we have cameras and radar. Just send them a ticket in the mail and impound their car after that (the same as Austria and Switzerland). We don't enforce it because we don't want to.

infecto 2y ago

This feels so true. I don't see enforcement across any of the portions of the US I travel. I rarely if ever see cars pulled over. It is a contrast to what I felt growing up.

thot_experiment 2y ago

You may be surprised to learn that we did not in fact defund the police. :thonking_face_emoji:

hobotime 2y ago
Seattle sure did. And it sucks. We lost 70% of the officers to other jurisdictions that don't hate them.

InitialLastName 2y ago

Which states defunded their police departments?

hobotime 2y ago
Don't matter, as police officers migrate to places that don't hate them. The Democrat stronghold cities have less police now than three years ago.
- locopati 2y ago
  there's a difference between hating and wanting to rein in out of control criminal organizations

NotSammyHagar 2y ago

Actually defunding the police turned out to be something that didn't happen, at least from the democrats (who are still blamed for it). The main defunding was from the republican leadership in the house who insisted on reducing the budget or multiple federal law enforcement agencies, such as FBI and ATF. The republicans defunded the police. But the effective outcome of all the sound and fury is that police enforcement seems way way down. I can't understand why they allow so many drivers to go around with expired license plates and worse (no plates, hand written plates, etc). They just don't stop them any more. There was a claim that laws about safe pursuit were a reason to not stop them, then they reversed the laws, still happening). I'm very ticked about it.

pandaman 2y ago
What does the Congress have to do with police forces? What do FBI and ATF have to do with traffic enforcement? Actual police (one that enforces traffic laws) had actually been defunded and by democrats: 1. LA https://apnews.com/article/3ad962eb78e30975354f6036c6451022#:~:text=The%20Los%20Angeles%20City%20Council%20has%20voted%20to,a%20little%20more%20than%209%2C700%20by%20next%20summer https://apnews.com/article/3ad962eb78e30975354f6036c6451022#.... 2. NYC https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/01/us/new-york-budget-nypd-1-billion-cut-trnd/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/01/us/new-york-budget-nypd-1-bil... 3. Austin https://www.npr.org/2021/10/24/1048790508/officials-in-austin-cut-police-budgets-last-year-then-refunded-them-this-year https://www.npr.org/2021/10/24/1048790508/officials-in-austi... 4. Seattle https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/seattle-has-been-defunding-the-police-exactly-backward/ https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/seattle-h... 5. Portland https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/protests/defunding-portland-police-city-council-budget-15-million-cuts/283-239c5e3a-cfed-4dce-8775-d2c52a9df9aa https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/protests/defunding-po... I could go on.

janalsncm 2y ago

You don’t need police to enforce speed laws. You just need cameras, which have the advantages of being cheaper and safer. There are two kinds of speed camera systems. One uses two cameras in short succession to measure instantaneous speed. You can dodge this by slowing down right before it. The second uses the same concept but puts the cameras a mile or so apart to measure duration over that distance. This is harder to game.

bluefirebrand 2y ago
Speed laws aren't the thing we need to enforce. Reckless driving is You need traffic police to enforce reckless driving kaws