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Louisiana Requires Ten Commandments to Be Displayed in Public-School Classrooms
- JojoFatsani 2y agoDamn edgelords
- johnklos 2y agoIt makes for an excellent litmus test to ask, sometimes literally out loud, whether someone who advocates for the legislation of a specific religion's rules would be OK with being forced to comply with a different religion's rules and tenets. A secondary litmus test is whether a person can even understand the reasoning behind the idea of the separation of church and state. Unfortunately, there are too many people who are either so willfully ignorant or just incredibly dim that they can't understand that it's hypocritical to want to do to others what they would not want done to themselves. Sigh. At least these people are showing us exactly who they are.
- locopati 2y agothey have been for quite some time now
- codechicago277 2y agoMany of the people pushing for these new rules are Christian Nationalists, and explicitly reject the separation of church and state. Some pastors are getting in trouble with their congregation if they try to remove an American flag from the podium, for example. It also fits in neatly with the Trump Bible that he released recently, which included a copy of the constitution, pretty explicitly rejecting the Christian belief of not adding or removing anything to the Word of God. But this hypocrisy has been a core part of American culture since its founding, check out the book Money Cult to trace the origins and see more about how church is essentially big business in many of these states. [1] The Money Cult: Capitalism, Christianity, and the Unmaking of the American Dream [2] https://www.threads.net/@revjsreeder/post/C8W9cR8O1sg/?xmt=AQGzQvoize-S0OmnuMFxwk8Vw1n4qNDYNxacLmS4y3DH8w https://www.threads.net/@revjsreeder/post/C8W9cR8O1sg/?xmt=A...
- rayiner 2y agoWhat is a “Christian nationalist?” How is it different from a Christian Democrat (a common political orientation in Europe)?
- saagarjha 2y agoWell, we’re talking about the US for one.
- rayiner 2y agoThe U.S. was founded by Christians and remains an overwhelming Christian majority country. So the question remains: what’s the functional difference between “Christian nationalism” (as it’s used here) and Christian democracy as is widespread in Europe? To use an example: Germany’s dominant party has long been the Christian Democratic Union. Its policies are motivated by Christian theology. Is that Christian nationalism?
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- _fs 2y agoA Christian nationalist is a person who believes that the United States was founded as a Christian nation and should maintain a strong Christian identity in its laws, government, and culture. [1][2] Christian nationalists typically seek to promote Christian values and influence in the political sphere, often with the goal of shaping the country's laws and policies to align with their interpretation of Christian doctrine.[1][2] In contrast, a Christian Democrat is a political orientation common in Europe that emphasizes social justice, subsidiarity, and the role of the church in society, but does not necessarily seek to establish a Christian state or impose Christian doctrine through the government.[3] Christian Democrats generally believe in the separation of church and state and advocate for policies that support the common good and the dignity of the human person, rather than explicitly promoting a Christian nationalist agenda.[3] The key difference is that Christian nationalism is a political ideology focused on establishing a Christian identity for the nation, while Christian Democracy is more focused on applying Christian social teachings to the political realm without necessarily seeking to create a Christian state.[3] https://www.reddit.com/r/Reformed/comments/17u7r9r/what_are_the_key_differences_between_christian/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Reformed/comments/17u7r9r/what_are_... https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2021/february-web-only/what-is-christian-nationalism.html https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2021/february-web-only/... https://christoverall.com/article/longform/what-is-the-spectrum-of-major-views-on-political-theology-a-proposed-taxonomy-of-seven-views-on-religion-and-government/ https://christoverall.com/article/longform/what-is-the-spect...
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- rayiner 2y ago> It makes for an excellent litmus test to ask, sometimes literally out loud, whether someone who advocates for the legislation of a specific religion's rules would be OK with being forced to comply with a different religion's rules and tenets. This overlooks the difference between majority religions and minority religions. If the majority want to legislate a rule, it shouldn’t matter what is the rationale behind that rule. Everyone relies on moral frameworks based on non-falsifiable axioms to formulate political opinions. In the German state of Bavaria, all public buildings are required to display Christian crosses: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43892329 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43892329. This is a reasonable exercise of democratic will in a Christian-majority place. A better question is to ask the same person how they feel about legislation motivated by religious principles in a country where the majority follow that religion. I expect you’d find that most American Christians don’t care if India wants to legislate based on Hindu principles. > A secondary litmus test is whether a person can even understand the reasoning behind the idea of the separation of church and state A better litmus test is whether someone can identify where in the Constitution it says anything about “separation of church and state.”
- saagarjha 2y agoAmerican Christians don’t care what India does for a large part because they don’t live there. But they do care when it leads to rights abuses of minorities.
- rayiner 2y ago> American Christians don’t care what India does for a large part because they don’t live there But that’s the critical distinction. Democracy means that people who live in a place get to decide what kind of place they want to live in. Complaining about what Hindus are doing in India is hypocritical and none of American Christians’ business.
- saagarjha 2y agoThat's not actually how the world works. You can be sovereign all you want but when you are doing human rights abuses people are well within their rights to call you out on that.
- s3graham 2y agohttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jun/19/ten-commandments-louisiana-public-schools https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jun/19/ten-... non-paywall (similar content I assume, since via AP)
- freedomben 2y agoThanks. Archive.is didn't look to get the whole thing so yours is a better source (archive source ftr: https://archive.is/5Gvii https://archive.is/5Gvii )
- billti 2y agoAnd likewise, it made for a front page news story on the BBC https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp66xdxj0l3o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp66xdxj0l3o
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- ratg13 2y agoLooking forward to the Baphomet statues they will have to install next.
- JKCalhoun 2y agoGeorge Carlin on the Ten Commandments (in his angrier, later years): https://youtu.be/sk81tUUhRig https://youtu.be/sk81tUUhRig
- sizzzzlerz 2y agoI, for one, look forward to tracking the drop in LA violent crime rates, elimination of the opiate crisis, spurning of those who commit adultery and are habitual liars. I mean, if that doesn't happen, what's the point?
- yawpitch 2y agoAhh, the Ten Commandments… which appear twice in the Bible, both of which are different, and neither of which contains a list containing 10 commandments.
- hindsightbias 2y agoPretty tame for the shape of things to come. SCOTUS will have their back for another generation or two.
- hprotagonist 2y agoperhaps the stupidest thing about this is that the specific text prescribed by the legislation was written to promote the de Mille/ Heston “The Ten Commandments” film of the 1950s.
- GoodJokes 2y ago[dead]
- deepfriedchokes 2y agoI look forward to the Satanic Temple’s predictable response to this.