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I'm not optimistic about non tech people adopting mastodon.192.168.555.2.xproxy.remoteinstance2452456a1.mirror.com. Threads just makes Meta look even more unco

I'm not optimistic about non tech people adopting mastodon.192.168.555.2.xproxy.remoteinstance2452456a1.mirror.com. Threads just makes Meta look even more uncool and desperate to catch up. I'm sure they'll do everything in their power to advertise across Instagram and Facebook. Non tech guy says : "Bluewhat?"

krapp 2y ago
>I'm not optimistic about non tech people easily logging into mastodon.192.168.555.2.xproxy.remoteinstance2452456a1.mirror.com. Why are you trolling? Mastodon instances have normal URLs like https://mastodon.social https://mastodon.social, and you can just log in there like any other site. And there's a ton of "non-tech" people on Mastodon.. in fact the people who seem whine the most about how hard it is are the "techies" on HN. It's weird.
- pipeline_peak 2y ago
  Your very own host is https://krapp.masto.host/@krapp https://krapp.masto.host/@krapp All im saying is it’s not a good look as opposed to a single simple Twitter.com I’m obviously exaggerating but when I click this link all I see is a scattered mess that the majority of people don’t want to put up with. The non foss people who could care less about the musk takeover enough to actually jump ship. https://joinmastodon.org/servers https://joinmastodon.org/servers I feel like I’m playing CS 1.6 or something
  - krapp 2y ago
    It's a single user, hosted instance so just https://krapp.masto.host https://krapp.masto.host would also work, it's just (unnecessarily) pointing to a user account. It's not that weird - this very forum is a subdomain of ycombinator, people used to host their sites under geocities and tripod and the like. I agree that instance discovery is a problem - mostly because identity isn't portable on Mastodon so you're kind of making a commitment, but it clearly isn't an insurmountable level of complexity for a lot of people to deal with. Most people will just gravitate to the biggest instances and that's fine. One of the lessons I think the fragmentation of Twitter is teaching us is that the user experience doesn't have to be as simple and frictionless as possible.. people will put up with some rough edges if they want to.
    - pipeline_peak 2y ago
      Maybe on the app it’ll eventually have this nice virtualization where it all appears as one. But hell, I can’t even imagine getting my mom to use Discord with all the channels and servers etc…
      - krapp 2y ago
        I think that's inevitable, but it won't happen without an initial surge of adoption. Things like Mastodon tend to stay platforms by nerds for nerds otherwise. It will have to evolve the way the web in general evolved to serve more people.
kstrauser 2y ago
"How will I ever remember that I can be emailed at me@alt4.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com? This email thing will never take off among non-techies."
- pipeline_peak 2y ago
  Email was a real thing, and it took off because corporations like AOL and Microsoft advertised it to the average person. Mastodon feels like : “Ah yes, my favorite account to follow @CNN@mstdn.social. I hope some day we get the real CNN” Btw that’s a real account, not me over exaggerating again.

krapp 2y ago

>I'm not optimistic about non tech people easily logging into mastodon.192.168.555.2.xproxy.remoteinstance2452456a1.mirror.com. Why are you trolling? Mastodon instances have normal URLs like https://mastodon.social https://mastodon.social, and you can just log in there like any other site. And there's a ton of "non-tech" people on Mastodon.. in fact the people who seem whine the most about how hard it is are the "techies" on HN. It's weird.

pipeline_peak 2y ago
Your very own host is https://krapp.masto.host/@krapp https://krapp.masto.host/@krapp All im saying is it’s not a good look as opposed to a single simple Twitter.com I’m obviously exaggerating but when I click this link all I see is a scattered mess that the majority of people don’t want to put up with. The non foss people who could care less about the musk takeover enough to actually jump ship. https://joinmastodon.org/servers https://joinmastodon.org/servers I feel like I’m playing CS 1.6 or something
- krapp 2y ago
  It's a single user, hosted instance so just https://krapp.masto.host https://krapp.masto.host would also work, it's just (unnecessarily) pointing to a user account. It's not that weird - this very forum is a subdomain of ycombinator, people used to host their sites under geocities and tripod and the like. I agree that instance discovery is a problem - mostly because identity isn't portable on Mastodon so you're kind of making a commitment, but it clearly isn't an insurmountable level of complexity for a lot of people to deal with. Most people will just gravitate to the biggest instances and that's fine. One of the lessons I think the fragmentation of Twitter is teaching us is that the user experience doesn't have to be as simple and frictionless as possible.. people will put up with some rough edges if they want to.
  - pipeline_peak 2y ago
    Maybe on the app it’ll eventually have this nice virtualization where it all appears as one. But hell, I can’t even imagine getting my mom to use Discord with all the channels and servers etc…
    - krapp 2y ago
      I think that's inevitable, but it won't happen without an initial surge of adoption. Things like Mastodon tend to stay platforms by nerds for nerds otherwise. It will have to evolve the way the web in general evolved to serve more people.

kstrauser 2y ago

"How will I ever remember that I can be emailed at me@alt4.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com? This email thing will never take off among non-techies."

pipeline_peak 2y ago
Email was a real thing, and it took off because corporations like AOL and Microsoft advertised it to the average person. Mastodon feels like : “Ah yes, my favorite account to follow @CNN@mstdn.social. I hope some day we get the real CNN” Btw that’s a real account, not me over exaggerating again.