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I'm Not Switching to Linux

6 points by Kye 2y ago

zer00eyz 2y ago
Ahh windows. It's the Honda Civic of operating systems. Articles like this remind me of the old civic's... rims, stereo and an engine that burns enough oil that you just added a quart when you added gas.
shams93 2y ago
In a lot of cases you can't, many devices are locked in, especially in the arm world, you can't just switch, you have the os baked in which is a great way to cause an ewaste explosion. Like you can't buy an ipad and expect to run linux on it even though its chips are more than capable.
oldpersonintx 2y ago
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beardyw 2y ago
Thanks for sharing.
simonblack 2y ago
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- navjack27 2y ago
  Did you need to add "Linux doesn't need you"? This is the exact problem that makes the Linux welcoming party so two faced
  - simonblack 2y ago
    Well the OP didn't need to say 'I'm not switching to Linux'. All he needed to say was 'I'm staying with Windows' and I would have said 'Congratulations. Enjoy!'.
jethronethro 2y ago
OK, so Linux isn't for you. Not everything is suitable for everyone. But why crow about it in public? To bask in some smugness? Or to justify your choice (not just to yourself but others)?
- ThrowawayR2 2y ago
  If FOSS and Linux users get to crow (EDIT: not my word choice, I'm quoting the parent post) about the supposed superiority of their software choices and Apple users get to crow about the supposed superiority of MacOS, then there's no reason this fellow isn't allowed to as well.
  - Kye 2y ago
    I'm not even crowing about it It's weird how people can find all kinds of stuff where it's not present. Some kind of rhetorical pareidolia. I basically said "Windows sucks, but it sucks less than Linux for my specific needs and people who aggressively insist otherwise at me can heck off."
- washadjeffmad 2y ago
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stephenr 2y ago
Look you do what works for you, but this sounds like technological Stockholm syndrome: > I know how to take control of Windows and remove all the noise they try to add every year or so
- Kye 2y ago
  I haven't found a thing people complain about that I wasn't able to remove. It's usually just 2-3 clicks, too.
  - stephenr 2y ago
    That's my point. I don't expect to have to remove preinstalled crap from my computer.
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    - navjack27 2y ago
      I'm not Kye but I equally don't expect to have to work around some developers ideals getting in the way of Linux being able to function correctly when faced with an Intel IGPU and an Nvidia DGPU in a laptop. I don't expect to have to work around tons of things in Linux that take way longer than two to three clicks when the alternative is just install Windows 10 or 11 and it functions as it should... Edit: most of the pre-installed things that people talk about are actually shortcuts that make things install. When you go to uninstall those things or remove them from the start menu it's readily apparent that most of those things are just a couple hundred kilobytes or in some cases a couple megabytes. It's not like it's not a selling feature on Linux or any other operating system to not have things pre-installed right? It almost seems like something's broken if you install Linux and it doesn't have Firefox right out of the box and it doesn't have a built-in image viewer and whatever else things people need pre-installed.
TheCleric 2y ago
Not arguing with you at all, pick the tool that’s right for you, but I’m curious which tools you’re using that only work in Windows? I’m sure there are plenty out there, but I’m really only thinking of MS specific tools like Visual Studio and SQL Server tools.
- Kye 2y ago
  Ableton Live: The WineHQ page says "disable Max." I need that! Affinity Suite: There's a long, involved dance to get it kind of working. Arturia V Collection X: Mixed reports Native Instruments stuff: Mixed reports And even if it works at some point, I don't look forward to the prospect of waiting for someone to figure out how to make the next version work. There are official Nvidia drivers for Linux for my GPU, but I don't know how well it would work, and I don't have anything to put install media on to test. Doing the dance with configuring EFI to boot a live CD from the SSD doesn't appeal to me.
  - TheCleric 2y ago
    Thanks.
  - JoeyBananas 2y ago
    If Windows is the only OS that has the software you need and that's why you use it, I get that. But I wonder, If you are a competent Linux user as you claim, then wouldn't you prefer if whatever software you wanted worked on Linux? If the answer is yes, then why do you have a positive attitude towards Windows when it's a ball-and-chain that you only use because you have to?
    - Kye 2y ago
      I don't have a positive attitude toward Windows. I would prefer if the software I use worked on Linux.
      - JoeyBananas 2y ago
        Lol. Next time someone tries to evangelize Linux to you just tell them that

6 points by Kye 2y ago

Ahh windows. It's the Honda Civic of operating systems. Articles like this remind me of the old civic's... rims, stereo and an engine that burns enough oil that you just added a quart when you added gas.

shams93 2y ago

In a lot of cases you can't, many devices are locked in, especially in the arm world, you can't just switch, you have the os baked in which is a great way to cause an ewaste explosion. Like you can't buy an ipad and expect to run linux on it even though its chips are more than capable.

oldpersonintx 2y ago

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beardyw 2y ago

Thanks for sharing.

simonblack 2y ago

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navjack27 2y ago
Did you need to add "Linux doesn't need you"? This is the exact problem that makes the Linux welcoming party so two faced
- simonblack 2y ago
  Well the OP didn't need to say 'I'm not switching to Linux'. All he needed to say was 'I'm staying with Windows' and I would have said 'Congratulations. Enjoy!'.

jethronethro 2y ago

OK, so Linux isn't for you. Not everything is suitable for everyone. But why crow about it in public? To bask in some smugness? Or to justify your choice (not just to yourself but others)?

ThrowawayR2 2y ago
If FOSS and Linux users get to crow (EDIT: not my word choice, I'm quoting the parent post) about the supposed superiority of their software choices and Apple users get to crow about the supposed superiority of MacOS, then there's no reason this fellow isn't allowed to as well.
- Kye 2y ago
  I'm not even crowing about it It's weird how people can find all kinds of stuff where it's not present. Some kind of rhetorical pareidolia. I basically said "Windows sucks, but it sucks less than Linux for my specific needs and people who aggressively insist otherwise at me can heck off."
washadjeffmad 2y ago
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stephenr 2y ago

Look you do what works for you, but this sounds like technological Stockholm syndrome: > I know how to take control of Windows and remove all the noise they try to add every year or so

Kye 2y ago
I haven't found a thing people complain about that I wasn't able to remove. It's usually just 2-3 clicks, too.
- stephenr 2y ago
  That's my point. I don't expect to have to remove preinstalled crap from my computer.
  - deleted 2y ago
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  - navjack27 2y ago
    I'm not Kye but I equally don't expect to have to work around some developers ideals getting in the way of Linux being able to function correctly when faced with an Intel IGPU and an Nvidia DGPU in a laptop. I don't expect to have to work around tons of things in Linux that take way longer than two to three clicks when the alternative is just install Windows 10 or 11 and it functions as it should... Edit: most of the pre-installed things that people talk about are actually shortcuts that make things install. When you go to uninstall those things or remove them from the start menu it's readily apparent that most of those things are just a couple hundred kilobytes or in some cases a couple megabytes. It's not like it's not a selling feature on Linux or any other operating system to not have things pre-installed right? It almost seems like something's broken if you install Linux and it doesn't have Firefox right out of the box and it doesn't have a built-in image viewer and whatever else things people need pre-installed.

TheCleric 2y ago

Not arguing with you at all, pick the tool that’s right for you, but I’m curious which tools you’re using that only work in Windows? I’m sure there are plenty out there, but I’m really only thinking of MS specific tools like Visual Studio and SQL Server tools.

Kye 2y ago
Ableton Live: The WineHQ page says "disable Max." I need that! Affinity Suite: There's a long, involved dance to get it kind of working. Arturia V Collection X: Mixed reports Native Instruments stuff: Mixed reports And even if it works at some point, I don't look forward to the prospect of waiting for someone to figure out how to make the next version work. There are official Nvidia drivers for Linux for my GPU, but I don't know how well it would work, and I don't have anything to put install media on to test. Doing the dance with configuring EFI to boot a live CD from the SSD doesn't appeal to me.
- TheCleric 2y ago
  Thanks.
- JoeyBananas 2y ago
  If Windows is the only OS that has the software you need and that's why you use it, I get that. But I wonder, If you are a competent Linux user as you claim, then wouldn't you prefer if whatever software you wanted worked on Linux? If the answer is yes, then why do you have a positive attitude towards Windows when it's a ball-and-chain that you only use because you have to?
  - Kye 2y ago
    I don't have a positive attitude toward Windows. I would prefer if the software I use worked on Linux.
    - JoeyBananas 2y ago
      Lol. Next time someone tries to evangelize Linux to you just tell them that