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It's really too bad. Higher ed needs disruption. The problem is, a responsibly-run university is a slow/medium growth enterprise, not an overnight unicorn. The

by salamo 2y ago

It's really too bad. Higher ed needs disruption. The problem is, a responsibly-run university is a slow/medium growth enterprise, not an overnight unicorn. The Vanderbilts and Carnegies of today could do a major public service if they wanted to. Use their names and hire the best researchers in their respective fields and pay them well.

mistrial9 2y ago
this is happening in great numbers .. behind closed doors, private benefit, legal NDAs, in the case of AI also closely tied to nationalist entities in uniforms. What could go wrong?
TrackerFF 2y ago
Higher education works fine in other countries, where it is heavily subsidized by the government. But, I guess, for many people in the US - they want any solution other than that.
- VirusNewbie 2y ago
  Why do you think higher education is not subsidized by the government? You can look at how much money universities receive. Do you think Universities are incapable of education people for less money?
- philwelch 2y ago
  Higher education in the US is heavily subsidized by the government, but the administration just grows to consume all of those subsidies. Almost none of the US’s problems are the result of not throwing enough taxpayer money at the problem. We throw as much taxpayer money at problems as any other country in the world.
  - doubloon 2y ago
    The US version of "subsidized by the government" is that the government guarantees gigantic piles of money to be loaned to 18 year olds and then says they have to pay it back. This tends to attract an enormous amount of non-education related work like loan servicing companies, bloated school administration, etc. Now schools mission is not just to educate it is to get a piece of that huge loan pie. It creates perverse incentives like universities competing on how fancy their dorms are or whatever meanwhile they are trying to drive down all costs like turning full time professors into part time employees who have to get second jobs to make ends meet. Kids become just loan delivery mechanisms to administration. What a subsidy would be is just... giving the money directly to the schools. Like is done with high school.
    - philwelch 2y ago
      > What a subsidy would be is just... giving the money directly to the schools. Like is done with high school. How’s that working out for K-12? Baltimore spends over $20,000 per student on their schools—more than the US average, and significantly more than most developed countries—but their schools are awful. As I said, none of this is an issue of not throwing enough money at the problem.

by salamo 2y ago

mistrial9 2y ago

this is happening in great numbers .. behind closed doors, private benefit, legal NDAs, in the case of AI also closely tied to nationalist entities in uniforms. What could go wrong?

TrackerFF 2y ago

Higher education works fine in other countries, where it is heavily subsidized by the government. But, I guess, for many people in the US - they want any solution other than that.

VirusNewbie 2y ago
Why do you think higher education is not subsidized by the government? You can look at how much money universities receive. Do you think Universities are incapable of education people for less money?
philwelch 2y ago
Higher education in the US is heavily subsidized by the government, but the administration just grows to consume all of those subsidies. Almost none of the US’s problems are the result of not throwing enough taxpayer money at the problem. We throw as much taxpayer money at problems as any other country in the world.
- doubloon 2y ago
  The US version of "subsidized by the government" is that the government guarantees gigantic piles of money to be loaned to 18 year olds and then says they have to pay it back. This tends to attract an enormous amount of non-education related work like loan servicing companies, bloated school administration, etc. Now schools mission is not just to educate it is to get a piece of that huge loan pie. It creates perverse incentives like universities competing on how fancy their dorms are or whatever meanwhile they are trying to drive down all costs like turning full time professors into part time employees who have to get second jobs to make ends meet. Kids become just loan delivery mechanisms to administration. What a subsidy would be is just... giving the money directly to the schools. Like is done with high school.
  - philwelch 2y ago
    > What a subsidy would be is just... giving the money directly to the schools. Like is done with high school. How’s that working out for K-12? Baltimore spends over $20,000 per student on their schools—more than the US average, and significantly more than most developed countries—but their schools are awful. As I said, none of this is an issue of not throwing enough money at the problem.