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Well, no. "Socialism has evolved" is nonsensical. Socialism has a definition so either that's what you want or that's not what you want... Socialism has disappe

Well, no. "Socialism has evolved" is nonsensical. Socialism has a definition so either that's what you want or that's not what you want... Socialism has disappeared from government and from what most "socialist parties" actually seek, which is in fact social democracy. There are still parties that seek socialism, or groups within parties that overall do not.

palata 2y ago
> Socialism has a definition so either that's what you want or that's not what you want So when you go to a movie theater, it's not a movie theater because by definition it is an analog movie being projected in black and white without sound? How could this new digital thing with colors and sound ever be compared to the original movie theater? That's nonsensical. Movie theaters have disappeared decades ago, right? I know that 99.9% of the people still use the word "movie theater" for the new thing that exists everywhere, but surely they are wrong. Because that's not how language works, is it? Language is about the definition I chose to keep from decades ago, not about the definition that is commonly understood by the people who use the word. That's how I understand what your understanding of "the definition of a word". In my view, someone calling an iPhone "a phone" is not wrong, even though the iPhone is pretty far from what used to be called a phone.
- mytailorisrich 2y ago
  No, what you're saying is that a circle has "evolved" into a square but it's it's fine to still call it a circle. Of course it isn't. Again, it seems obvious you do not understand what socialism vs capitalism means, as explained before and for the reasons explained before, as your latest comment is not apt at all and besides the point. I would nicely suggest you have a good read at the Wikipedia pages in English, which look less manipulated that the ones in French (more scrutiny?), or even Marxist stuff if you are up to. Enjoy!
  - palata 2y ago
    > Again, it seems obvious you do not understand what socialism vs capitalism means Turns out I studied Marx ;-). > No, what you're saying is that a circle has "evolved" into a square but it's it's fine to still call it a circle. Of course it isn't. My turn, now: it seems obvious that you do not understand how languages work.
    - mytailorisrich 2y ago
      This is not language this is an economical and political theory... > Turns out I studied Marx Pull the other one!

palata 2y ago

> Socialism has a definition so either that's what you want or that's not what you want So when you go to a movie theater, it's not a movie theater because by definition it is an analog movie being projected in black and white without sound? How could this new digital thing with colors and sound ever be compared to the original movie theater? That's nonsensical. Movie theaters have disappeared decades ago, right? I know that 99.9% of the people still use the word "movie theater" for the new thing that exists everywhere, but surely they are wrong. Because that's not how language works, is it? Language is about the definition I chose to keep from decades ago, not about the definition that is commonly understood by the people who use the word. That's how I understand what your understanding of "the definition of a word". In my view, someone calling an iPhone "a phone" is not wrong, even though the iPhone is pretty far from what used to be called a phone.

mytailorisrich 2y ago
No, what you're saying is that a circle has "evolved" into a square but it's it's fine to still call it a circle. Of course it isn't. Again, it seems obvious you do not understand what socialism vs capitalism means, as explained before and for the reasons explained before, as your latest comment is not apt at all and besides the point. I would nicely suggest you have a good read at the Wikipedia pages in English, which look less manipulated that the ones in French (more scrutiny?), or even Marxist stuff if you are up to. Enjoy!
- palata 2y ago
  > Again, it seems obvious you do not understand what socialism vs capitalism means Turns out I studied Marx ;-). > No, what you're saying is that a circle has "evolved" into a square but it's it's fine to still call it a circle. Of course it isn't. My turn, now: it seems obvious that you do not understand how languages work.
  - mytailorisrich 2y ago
    This is not language this is an economical and political theory... > Turns out I studied Marx Pull the other one!