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The woman who ran PR for Chicago Tribune did the same thing with her husband. She now has a small farm in Michigan. She runs a PR agency from the farm. I perso

The woman who ran PR for Chicago Tribune did the same thing with her husband. She now has a small farm in Michigan. She runs a PR agency from the farm. I personally couldn’t do it… I prefer loud noises and bright lights but I lived in Rincon Hill and Times Square at various times…

jader201 2y ago
> I personally couldn’t do it… I prefer loud noises and bright lights How old are you? You don’t have to answer, but I’m guessing you’re probably not past 45. At some point, you start to prefer quiet. I haven’t lived in a really large city, but have been around noise enough that I’m hoping our next move will distance us from neighbors and highway noise. And yes, maybe we’ll have a farm animal or two.
- selectodude 2y ago
  I grew up all my life in a major city. The quiet and tranquility of a small town freak me out. For somebody who’s never lived in a city, you’re making quite a few assumptions.
  - coldtea 2y ago
    As somebody who lives in a multi-million city, every second person I talk to wants to move to the country, and it definitely much stronger tendency after around 30-35+. It doesn't matter if the parent's assumptions are "quite a few" or don't match you, what matters is if they match a big segment of the population to be statistically useful. There are always outliers who love to grow old in a big city and have their ashes scaterred in the middle of Manhattan.
    - ethbr1 2y ago
      The only set we should really be listening to are people who both: - Lived in a big city - Lived in a rural community Otherwise, everyone always thinks the grass is greener, absent experience with the alternative. Or as I heard it quipped -- you don't love something for it's best bits; you love it because you can tolerate its worst bits.
      - coldtea 2y ago
        >Otherwise, everyone always thinks the grass is greener, absent experience with the alternative For our purposes (which in this subthread is determining whether grandparents idea that "45+ prefer more quiet and wish to move to the country" is valid), this distinction doesn't matter - since this is not about whether that group is justified in preferring the country, but whether they prefer it or not.
        ethbr1 2y ago
        I care about maximizing people's happiness function. Whether there are a large number of people who believe in something that's incorrect is immaterial, as is over-counting kvetching without any intent to follow through.
        coldtea 2y ago
        >I care about maximizing people's happiness function. Good for you. Not on my subthread though :)
        ethbr1 2y ago
        Did you actually say "my subthread"?
        coldtea 2y ago
        Say it, no, but I did actually typed it.
        ethbr1 2y ago
        Out of curiosity, how many times a day on average do you find yourself starting a sentence with "Well, actually..."?
        coldtea 2y ago
    - asveikau 2y ago
      > every second person I talk to wants to move to the country Doesn't that possibly reflect your social circle more than a statement about the public at large?
      - coldtea 2y ago
        Abstractly yes, but practically not since it's diverse enough
        asveikau 2y ago
        Just to give another data point, I'm settled, have two kids, and almost never hear anybody say that. But I'll confess, I find people who talk like that a little obnoxious and I'll admit I may self select and avoid those people.
- emptyfile 2y ago
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- asveikau 2y ago
  Some people do still like city life in their 40s. Some people do find a more rural life unappealing.
- fullstop 2y ago
  >At some point, you start to prefer quiet. > I haven’t lived in a really large city, but have been around noise enough that I’m hoping our next move will distance us from neighbors and highway noise. I feel this, and I'm mid 40s. I keep my eyes open for places to live which are somehow both remote and near decent healthcare options. I don't need the healthcare options now, but I am aware that I am only going to get older and that's something that I'd want. I do my best to keep my yard full of life and tend to my plants and my gardens, but there's always the noise from the highway a mile or so away. It's less annoying when it's hot out, but the drone bothers me in the winter months.
- insane_dreamer 2y ago
  Same here. I lived in some of the world's largest cities most of my life, and loved the "big city" atmosphere. But in my late 40s it changed and started to crave being out in the countryside, away from people, noise, etc. I now live on the outskirts of a medium size city (in 5 minutes I'm out among orchards and vineyards), but would prefer to be even further out, have an orchard or small farm (though I have no illusions that I could make a living from that)
  - ethbr1 2y ago
    One uncounted point is frequency of novelty. Generalizing, I'd say younger people (18-35) are more default-comfortable in novel situations. As we age, people's tolerance for that seems to decrease. And, on the whole, I'd say that rural life provides less novelty than city life. Or at least novelty within tighter bounds.
    - insane_dreamer 2y ago
      I still crave novelty, in that I'm always wanting to discover new things, go new places. But I don't feel the need to be so "busy" as is common in a big city.

jader201 2y ago

> I personally couldn’t do it… I prefer loud noises and bright lights How old are you? You don’t have to answer, but I’m guessing you’re probably not past 45. At some point, you start to prefer quiet. I haven’t lived in a really large city, but have been around noise enough that I’m hoping our next move will distance us from neighbors and highway noise. And yes, maybe we’ll have a farm animal or two.

selectodude 2y ago
I grew up all my life in a major city. The quiet and tranquility of a small town freak me out. For somebody who’s never lived in a city, you’re making quite a few assumptions.
- coldtea 2y ago
  As somebody who lives in a multi-million city, every second person I talk to wants to move to the country, and it definitely much stronger tendency after around 30-35+. It doesn't matter if the parent's assumptions are "quite a few" or don't match you, what matters is if they match a big segment of the population to be statistically useful. There are always outliers who love to grow old in a big city and have their ashes scaterred in the middle of Manhattan.
  - ethbr1 2y ago
    The only set we should really be listening to are people who both: - Lived in a big city - Lived in a rural community Otherwise, everyone always thinks the grass is greener, absent experience with the alternative. Or as I heard it quipped -- you don't love something for it's best bits; you love it because you can tolerate its worst bits.
    - coldtea 2y ago
      >Otherwise, everyone always thinks the grass is greener, absent experience with the alternative For our purposes (which in this subthread is determining whether grandparents idea that "45+ prefer more quiet and wish to move to the country" is valid), this distinction doesn't matter - since this is not about whether that group is justified in preferring the country, but whether they prefer it or not.
      - ethbr1 2y ago
        I care about maximizing people's happiness function. Whether there are a large number of people who believe in something that's incorrect is immaterial, as is over-counting kvetching without any intent to follow through.
        coldtea 2y ago
        >I care about maximizing people's happiness function. Good for you. Not on my subthread though :)
        ethbr1 2y ago
        Did you actually say "my subthread"?
        coldtea 2y ago
        Say it, no, but I did actually typed it.
        ethbr1 2y ago
        Out of curiosity, how many times a day on average do you find yourself starting a sentence with "Well, actually..."?
        coldtea 2y ago
  - asveikau 2y ago
    > every second person I talk to wants to move to the country Doesn't that possibly reflect your social circle more than a statement about the public at large?
    - coldtea 2y ago
      Abstractly yes, but practically not since it's diverse enough
      - asveikau 2y ago
        Just to give another data point, I'm settled, have two kids, and almost never hear anybody say that. But I'll confess, I find people who talk like that a little obnoxious and I'll admit I may self select and avoid those people.
emptyfile 2y ago
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asveikau 2y ago
Some people do still like city life in their 40s. Some people do find a more rural life unappealing.
fullstop 2y ago
>At some point, you start to prefer quiet. > I haven’t lived in a really large city, but have been around noise enough that I’m hoping our next move will distance us from neighbors and highway noise. I feel this, and I'm mid 40s. I keep my eyes open for places to live which are somehow both remote and near decent healthcare options. I don't need the healthcare options now, but I am aware that I am only going to get older and that's something that I'd want. I do my best to keep my yard full of life and tend to my plants and my gardens, but there's always the noise from the highway a mile or so away. It's less annoying when it's hot out, but the drone bothers me in the winter months.
insane_dreamer 2y ago
Same here. I lived in some of the world's largest cities most of my life, and loved the "big city" atmosphere. But in my late 40s it changed and started to crave being out in the countryside, away from people, noise, etc. I now live on the outskirts of a medium size city (in 5 minutes I'm out among orchards and vineyards), but would prefer to be even further out, have an orchard or small farm (though I have no illusions that I could make a living from that)
- ethbr1 2y ago
  One uncounted point is frequency of novelty. Generalizing, I'd say younger people (18-35) are more default-comfortable in novel situations. As we age, people's tolerance for that seems to decrease. And, on the whole, I'd say that rural life provides less novelty than city life. Or at least novelty within tighter bounds.
  - insane_dreamer 2y ago
    I still crave novelty, in that I'm always wanting to discover new things, go new places. But I don't feel the need to be so "busy" as is common in a big city.