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Has ChatGPT ever billed itself as open source? The company called itself OpenAI but I don't think they've ever declared their LLM as that...

benterix 2y ago
Although ChatGPT never billed itself as open source, the company behind it called itself OpenAI which is an oxymoron as almost everything they do is as closed as possible in comparison to more open alternatives. So it's good it's included in the chart just for comparison.
- SillyUsername 2y ago
  Arguably I wouldn't list it at all. Their statement that the LLMs "bill themselves" as open source is like saying in an open source operating system list lets include Microsoft Windows, because Microsoft say they're open source friendly. I.e. it perpetuates the idea that OpenAI is open source, but just not in the categories listed on that table. Nobody would think Microsoft is really open source friendly, but inclusion on a list like the above would suggest it is.
  - dotancohen 2y ago
    If OpenAI were called MicroAI, there would be no issue. Likewise, if Microsoft were to rebrand as Opensoft then there would be similar confusion as to what is open about it. I've seen enough people think that there is something "open" about OpenAIs' products to learn to anticipate.
    - philipov 2y ago
      The thing that's open is their deposit account. You're welcome to put as much money in there as you want. Most people using ChatGPT don't even have an expectation that "Open" means anything. They have never heard of Open Source Software nor have they any association load on the word. It's just a few random sounds that add up to a Brand.
fzzzy 2y ago
What? GPT-2 is open source.
- Zambyte 2y ago
  As far as I know ChatGPT never used GPT-2, and ChatGPT is what is listed on the chart.
phh 2y ago
My guess is that it's there for the publicity of the article. It'll get better press coverage mentioning ChatGPT than without it. I think their work is great and very important, so I'll let allow them that usage.

benterix 2y ago

Although ChatGPT never billed itself as open source, the company behind it called itself OpenAI which is an oxymoron as almost everything they do is as closed as possible in comparison to more open alternatives. So it's good it's included in the chart just for comparison.

SillyUsername 2y ago
Arguably I wouldn't list it at all. Their statement that the LLMs "bill themselves" as open source is like saying in an open source operating system list lets include Microsoft Windows, because Microsoft say they're open source friendly. I.e. it perpetuates the idea that OpenAI is open source, but just not in the categories listed on that table. Nobody would think Microsoft is really open source friendly, but inclusion on a list like the above would suggest it is.
- dotancohen 2y ago
  If OpenAI were called MicroAI, there would be no issue. Likewise, if Microsoft were to rebrand as Opensoft then there would be similar confusion as to what is open about it. I've seen enough people think that there is something "open" about OpenAIs' products to learn to anticipate.
  - philipov 2y ago
    The thing that's open is their deposit account. You're welcome to put as much money in there as you want. Most people using ChatGPT don't even have an expectation that "Open" means anything. They have never heard of Open Source Software nor have they any association load on the word. It's just a few random sounds that add up to a Brand.

fzzzy 2y ago

What? GPT-2 is open source.

Zambyte 2y ago
As far as I know ChatGPT never used GPT-2, and ChatGPT is what is listed on the chart.

phh 2y ago

My guess is that it's there for the publicity of the article. It'll get better press coverage mentioning ChatGPT than without it. I think their work is great and very important, so I'll let allow them that usage.