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Regional development, common agricultural policy, European social fund... There are many things that could be considered a bit socialist. All the directives reg
by HPsquared 2y ago
Regional development, common agricultural policy, European social fund... There are many things that could be considered a bit socialist. All the directives regulating business, competition regulation too... EU is not really classical liberal or nationalist.
- ElDji 2y agoand considering the examples you cite, that's obviously a good thing, despite the fact that for most americans 'socialism' aims to be a scarecrow word.
- admissionsguy 2y agoSo good that it led to non existent growth except in third world immigration.
- mort96 2y agoIn what way is regional development or common policy or regulating business "socialist" in any way?
- HPsquared 2y agoCollective control over the means of production, and redistribution of wealth.
- mort96 2y agoOh, if your definition of "collective control over the means of production" is as broad as "there exists a governing body which creates and enforces policies which regulate the private sector", then I guess literally every single modern nation state style society is "socialist" in your eyes. I must say that's not the most useful definition, and certainly not what anyone who's a proponent of anything they call "socialism" means by "socialism".
- HPsquared 2y agoLike "left/right", it's always a question of degree. There is no pure version of any system. I was responding to a comment that seems to think the EU policies have not a trace of socialism in them, which is incorrect. Edit: and the extent of EU regulations is quite enormous.
- emptysongglass 2y agoNo, you are incorrect. There is nothing socialist about the EU. Production, distribution and exchange are not owned by the people. Elected bodies owning them is not socialist.
- HPsquared 2y agoNot even a little? It's all-or-nothing?