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It seems very odd to me that the author would choose to add such an FAQ entry but fail to explain /how/ or /why/ GCC "is a crap." I'm sure there are several val

It seems very odd to me that the author would choose to add such an FAQ entry but fail to explain /how/ or /why/ GCC "is a crap." I'm sure there are several valid criticisms of GCC, but to be so forward without a list of examples or even a link to someone else's article does not inspire me to trust your software in my ring 0.

Etheryte 2y ago
Add to that the very next FAQ entry after that: > Do you have any kind of tests to check if the code is working as expected? > We don’t need tests. If it compiles, it is good enough; if it boots up, then it is perfect.
- SpecialistK 2y ago
  As someone's personal hobby project - more power to that person! It takes a lot more skill and dedication than I possess. I wish nothing but success and good fortune. And you can be as opinionated as you want. As something to be presented to the wider world, with a desire to have (testing) users and contributions... Hmm.
- cqqxo4zV46cp 2y ago
  This is obviously being said at least partially tongue in cheek. Not every website is Microsoft dot com.
  - CyberDildonics 2y ago
    I don't want to use tongue in cheek software
    - josephg 2y ago
      Then don’t? Its not like it’s going to replace iOS any time soon.
      - CyberDildonics 2y ago
        It seems like it's some kind of joke software, but it isn't labeled that way. Here is the creator: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40725452 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40725452
- bartvk 2y ago
  They're quoting Linus Torvalds.
  - Zambyte 2y ago
    Then they should link a reference
    - lioeters 2y ago
      > "Regression testing"? What's that? If it compiles, it is good; if it boots up, it is perfect. Source: Torvalds, Linus (1998-04-08). linux-kernel mailing list. https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/9804.1/0149.html https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/9804.1/0149.html
    - conradolandia 2y ago
      "They" are in no obligation of doing anything. It's a hobby project from someone. They owe you nothing.
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      - Zambyte 2y ago
        https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2119 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2119
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- blame-troi 2y ago
  Performance art maybe?
- supriyo-biswas 2y ago
  You left out "In the spirit of lighthearted development" and "As the project matures, implementing a comprehensive suite of automated tests is definitely on our roadmap."
  - BenjaminRH 2y ago
    That text was added since the original comment: https://archive.is/4CEWV https://archive.is/4CEWV
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rnmmrnm 2y ago
https://harmful.cat-v.org/software/GCC https://harmful.cat-v.org/software/GCC classic
- SpecialistK 2y ago
  Right! Even though that post is almost 20(!!) years old, Theo is respected enough that you could use that as a rationale for crapping on GCC. Obviously Theo has his detractors, rightfully so. And the language he uses in that post is not what I would use at all. It's downright unacceptable. But at least it's something - a thing from an authority you can point to and say "this is why!"

Etheryte 2y ago

Add to that the very next FAQ entry after that: > Do you have any kind of tests to check if the code is working as expected? > We don’t need tests. If it compiles, it is good enough; if it boots up, then it is perfect.

SpecialistK 2y ago
As someone's personal hobby project - more power to that person! It takes a lot more skill and dedication than I possess. I wish nothing but success and good fortune. And you can be as opinionated as you want. As something to be presented to the wider world, with a desire to have (testing) users and contributions... Hmm.
cqqxo4zV46cp 2y ago
This is obviously being said at least partially tongue in cheek. Not every website is Microsoft dot com.
- CyberDildonics 2y ago
  I don't want to use tongue in cheek software
  - josephg 2y ago
    Then don’t? Its not like it’s going to replace iOS any time soon.
    - CyberDildonics 2y ago
      It seems like it's some kind of joke software, but it isn't labeled that way. Here is the creator: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40725452 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40725452
bartvk 2y ago
They're quoting Linus Torvalds.
- Zambyte 2y ago
  Then they should link a reference
  - lioeters 2y ago
    > "Regression testing"? What's that? If it compiles, it is good; if it boots up, it is perfect. Source: Torvalds, Linus (1998-04-08). linux-kernel mailing list. https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/9804.1/0149.html https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/9804.1/0149.html
  - conradolandia 2y ago
    "They" are in no obligation of doing anything. It's a hobby project from someone. They owe you nothing.
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      [deleted]
    - Zambyte 2y ago
      https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2119 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2119
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blame-troi 2y ago
Performance art maybe?
supriyo-biswas 2y ago
You left out "In the spirit of lighthearted development" and "As the project matures, implementing a comprehensive suite of automated tests is definitely on our roadmap."
- BenjaminRH 2y ago
  That text was added since the original comment: https://archive.is/4CEWV https://archive.is/4CEWV
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rnmmrnm 2y ago

https://harmful.cat-v.org/software/GCC https://harmful.cat-v.org/software/GCC classic

SpecialistK 2y ago
Right! Even though that post is almost 20(!!) years old, Theo is respected enough that you could use that as a rationale for crapping on GCC. Obviously Theo has his detractors, rightfully so. And the language he uses in that post is not what I would use at all. It's downright unacceptable. But at least it's something - a thing from an authority you can point to and say "this is why!"