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Yet Italy spent years trying to put Adrian Newey in jail for building an f1 car involved in a fatal crash.

by rapsey 2y ago

pjc50 2y ago
Not a well-connected Italian, obviously.
- lelanthran 2y ago
  > Not a well-connected Italian, obviously. Obviously, since he isn't an Italian at all :-/
shiroiushi 2y ago
They also tried to put a bunch of earthquake scientists in jail for not predicting an earthquake.
- naasking 2y ago
  No, they were jailed because they reassured the population that there was no risk of earthquake, when there absolutely was. That's very different.
  - DangitBobby 2y ago
    Still ridiculous, though. Do doctors in Italy go to jail for giving false negative cancer diagnoses? Can I sue the weather man when I get struck by lightning when they said there's no chance of rain? Maybe next time the public should interpret the seismographs themselves. Edit: It was eventually overturned [1]. Still, a shocking indictment of the court system. 1. https://www.theverge.com/2014/11/11/7193391/italy-judges-clear-geologists-manslaughter-laquila-earthquake-fear https://www.theverge.com/2014/11/11/7193391/italy-judges-cle...
    - stefantalpalaru 2y ago
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    - naasking 2y ago
      > Still ridiculous, though. Do doctors in Italy go to jail for giving false negative cancer diagnoses? If there were strong indications of cancer and a doctor blatantly ignored it? An argument could be made that's negligence causing death. Clearly some degree of negligence is absolutely criminal when people's lives are on the line. Maybe you don't agree where that line was drawn in this specific case, but that's not an argument that no such line exists.
      - DangitBobby 2y ago
        Negligence means everything would have been fine if everyone involved did their duty. So I gave cases where people did their duty, got it wrong, and weren't negligent. You can imagine scenarios where they were negligent because they didn't do their duties, but I can assure you they were not since these were my imagined scenarios. In the case of these scientists who did their duty to the best of their abilities, this wasn't negligence, full stop.
buildbot 2y ago
Yeah don’t get involved in the Italian “justice” system. For another example, the still ongoing prosecution of Amanda Knox.
- stefantalpalaru 2y ago
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Yet Italy spent years trying to put Adrian Newey in jail for building an f1 car involved in a fatal crash.

by rapsey 2y ago

Yet Italy spent years trying to put Adrian Newey in jail for building an f1 car involved in a fatal crash.

pjc50 2y ago

Not a well-connected Italian, obviously.

lelanthran 2y ago
> Not a well-connected Italian, obviously. Obviously, since he isn't an Italian at all :-/

shiroiushi 2y ago

They also tried to put a bunch of earthquake scientists in jail for not predicting an earthquake.

naasking 2y ago
No, they were jailed because they reassured the population that there was no risk of earthquake, when there absolutely was. That's very different.
- DangitBobby 2y ago
  Still ridiculous, though. Do doctors in Italy go to jail for giving false negative cancer diagnoses? Can I sue the weather man when I get struck by lightning when they said there's no chance of rain? Maybe next time the public should interpret the seismographs themselves. Edit: It was eventually overturned [1]. Still, a shocking indictment of the court system. 1. https://www.theverge.com/2014/11/11/7193391/italy-judges-clear-geologists-manslaughter-laquila-earthquake-fear https://www.theverge.com/2014/11/11/7193391/italy-judges-cle...
  - stefantalpalaru 2y ago
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  - naasking 2y ago
    > Still ridiculous, though. Do doctors in Italy go to jail for giving false negative cancer diagnoses? If there were strong indications of cancer and a doctor blatantly ignored it? An argument could be made that's negligence causing death. Clearly some degree of negligence is absolutely criminal when people's lives are on the line. Maybe you don't agree where that line was drawn in this specific case, but that's not an argument that no such line exists.
    - DangitBobby 2y ago
      Negligence means everything would have been fine if everyone involved did their duty. So I gave cases where people did their duty, got it wrong, and weren't negligent. You can imagine scenarios where they were negligent because they didn't do their duties, but I can assure you they were not since these were my imagined scenarios. In the case of these scientists who did their duty to the best of their abilities, this wasn't negligence, full stop.

buildbot 2y ago

Yeah don’t get involved in the Italian “justice” system. For another example, the still ongoing prosecution of Amanda Knox.

stefantalpalaru 2y ago
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