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>Like many other US hackers and security researchers, Caceres had been personally targeted by North Korean spies who aimed to steal his intrusion tools. He had

>Like many other US hackers and security researchers, Caceres had been personally targeted by North Korean spies who aimed to steal his intrusion tools. He had detailed that targeting to the FBI but received no real government support. So he decided to take matters into his own hands and to send a message to the regime of Kim Jong Un: Messing with American hackers would have consequences. “It felt like the right thing to do here,” Caceres told WIRED at the time. “If they don’t see we have teeth, it’s just going to keep coming.” Indescribably based.

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akira2501 2y ago
Hardly. He's creating tools that interest state actors with no real means of defending himself or the tools. If he's that concerned he could just destroy the tools, but he wants to have his cake and eat it too. Then, in response to what should have been an obvious outcome to his actions, he commits what should be described as a "crime against humanity" against the entire communications infrastructure of a foreign country with nuclear weapons. There is nothing based here. This is stupid with a tinge of greed and ego mixed in.
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- valianteffort 2y ago
  Glad someone is saying this. Some obnoxious moron putting countless lives in danger to virtue signal has gotta be a new low on the internet retard scale.
  - consumer451 2y ago
    Whose lives did he put in danger? Also, if the entirety of the US goverment will not protect you from foreign state-sanctioned personal attacks, what should one do? Just sit there and take it, even if one could stop it? > The State Department has a thing called "Rewards for Justice" and they talk extensively about the NK problem and how we're being hacked all the time. They pay millions for information. I told them "I don't want any of your money, I want you to know who I am [insert wired article here] and that I can listerally make any attack coming from the country North Korea stop in its tracks within minutes. Let me grab their response: > https://imgur.com/a/s-lX6inGA https://imgur.com/a/s-lX6inGA > Just be ready to be fucking infuriated. They have a bunch of shit about how we need to take on the NK cyber threat. I literally give them a SOLUTION and they say it's not within their purview, go to other intelligence agencies. I told them I FUCKING DID. No response since. https://old.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1divlp3/im_the_hacker_that_brought_down_north_koreas/l974i3c/ https://old.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1divlp3/im_the_hacker...
    - valianteffort 2y ago
      If North Korea took down US infrastructure we would consider it an act of war. The dange of exposing your devices to the open internet should be well understood by this so-called "hacker". For him to unilaterally decide to commit an act of war against a foreign nation means he should also be held accountable for it in international criminal court. Were this any other two nations you might have a different tone. But these are the facts of the matter. He played with fire and if he winds up dead because of it he only has himself to blame. The only people I am concerned about is anyone else now facing danger because of his idiotic actions.
      - consumer451 2y ago
        He did not commit an "act of war." He is an individual, who tried to cooperate with his government and was denied. Meanwhile NK offense regularly attacks him on a nice day, and on every other day installs ransomware on US hospital infrastructure, putting actual lives at risk... All this guy did was shut down their capability to do so. I am unaware of any law that he broke. IMO, he also did not do anything immoral.
      - mewpmewp2 2y ago
        But foreign nations are already constantly trying to hack each other.
      - mensetmanusman 2y ago
        He defended himself against an inept state that regularly shoots random people out of cannons and murders entire family lines of anyone who flees their hell hole. If NK took down our infrastructure, it would be our fault because we have been warning our corrupt leaders for years and nothing is being done.
    - akira2501 2y ago
      > what should one do? Examine how their own actions were a large part in creating this particular outcome? Then question if they're worth continuing under such circumstances? > No response since. Yea, maybe diplomats should lead the charge, and not self important hackers with a desire to "shut down the internet" in a fit of nerdy rage?
  - quickthrowman 2y ago
    Do you really think Kim is going to nuke Tokyo or Seoul because a US citizen DDOSed their connection to the internet? I find that .. unlikely
    - valianteffort 2y ago
      No, but I also don't think this moron should have done what he did. Any retaliation now rests solely on his shoulders.
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- linearrust 2y ago
  > '“It felt like the right thing to do here,” Caceres told WIRED at the time. “If they don’t see we have teeth, it’s just going to keep coming.”' Ask yourself. Do 'hackers' talk like this or military/government employees? Also ask yourself, is WIRED a 'hacker' friendly magazine or a government affiliated state media? Some top WIRED offerings 'Former FBI Agent Explains How to Read Body Language...' 'Former CIA Chief of Disguise Breaks Down 30 Spy Scenes From...' Not to mention reddit and reddit AMAs been used by government agencies to push an agenda.
  - consumer451 2y ago
    The actual content of his AMA makes the whole US government apparatus look inept. Ask yourself, is this something that a US government agent would do?
    - smegsicle 2y ago
      only if they are interested in communicating to people who don't like the us government
  - akira2501 2y ago
    > Ask yourself. Do 'hackers' talk like this or military/government employees? He said thought his tools would be "stolen?" Then this is a lame manufactured pretext which makes it worse. It also makes his actions and broadcasting them _more_ of a crime. I'm not sure what your point is here.
- yatopifo 2y ago
  No attack against North Korea can be considered a crime.

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akira2501 2y ago

Hardly. He's creating tools that interest state actors with no real means of defending himself or the tools. If he's that concerned he could just destroy the tools, but he wants to have his cake and eat it too. Then, in response to what should have been an obvious outcome to his actions, he commits what should be described as a "crime against humanity" against the entire communications infrastructure of a foreign country with nuclear weapons. There is nothing based here. This is stupid with a tinge of greed and ego mixed in.

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valianteffort 2y ago
Glad someone is saying this. Some obnoxious moron putting countless lives in danger to virtue signal has gotta be a new low on the internet retard scale.
- consumer451 2y ago
  Whose lives did he put in danger? Also, if the entirety of the US goverment will not protect you from foreign state-sanctioned personal attacks, what should one do? Just sit there and take it, even if one could stop it? > The State Department has a thing called "Rewards for Justice" and they talk extensively about the NK problem and how we're being hacked all the time. They pay millions for information. I told them "I don't want any of your money, I want you to know who I am [insert wired article here] and that I can listerally make any attack coming from the country North Korea stop in its tracks within minutes. Let me grab their response: > https://imgur.com/a/s-lX6inGA https://imgur.com/a/s-lX6inGA > Just be ready to be fucking infuriated. They have a bunch of shit about how we need to take on the NK cyber threat. I literally give them a SOLUTION and they say it's not within their purview, go to other intelligence agencies. I told them I FUCKING DID. No response since. https://old.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1divlp3/im_the_hacker_that_brought_down_north_koreas/l974i3c/ https://old.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1divlp3/im_the_hacker...
  - valianteffort 2y ago
    If North Korea took down US infrastructure we would consider it an act of war. The dange of exposing your devices to the open internet should be well understood by this so-called "hacker". For him to unilaterally decide to commit an act of war against a foreign nation means he should also be held accountable for it in international criminal court. Were this any other two nations you might have a different tone. But these are the facts of the matter. He played with fire and if he winds up dead because of it he only has himself to blame. The only people I am concerned about is anyone else now facing danger because of his idiotic actions.
    - consumer451 2y ago
      He did not commit an "act of war." He is an individual, who tried to cooperate with his government and was denied. Meanwhile NK offense regularly attacks him on a nice day, and on every other day installs ransomware on US hospital infrastructure, putting actual lives at risk... All this guy did was shut down their capability to do so. I am unaware of any law that he broke. IMO, he also did not do anything immoral.
    - mewpmewp2 2y ago
      But foreign nations are already constantly trying to hack each other.
    - mensetmanusman 2y ago
      He defended himself against an inept state that regularly shoots random people out of cannons and murders entire family lines of anyone who flees their hell hole. If NK took down our infrastructure, it would be our fault because we have been warning our corrupt leaders for years and nothing is being done.
  - akira2501 2y ago
    > what should one do? Examine how their own actions were a large part in creating this particular outcome? Then question if they're worth continuing under such circumstances? > No response since. Yea, maybe diplomats should lead the charge, and not self important hackers with a desire to "shut down the internet" in a fit of nerdy rage?
- quickthrowman 2y ago
  Do you really think Kim is going to nuke Tokyo or Seoul because a US citizen DDOSed their connection to the internet? I find that .. unlikely
  - valianteffort 2y ago
    No, but I also don't think this moron should have done what he did. Any retaliation now rests solely on his shoulders.
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linearrust 2y ago
> '“It felt like the right thing to do here,” Caceres told WIRED at the time. “If they don’t see we have teeth, it’s just going to keep coming.”' Ask yourself. Do 'hackers' talk like this or military/government employees? Also ask yourself, is WIRED a 'hacker' friendly magazine or a government affiliated state media? Some top WIRED offerings 'Former FBI Agent Explains How to Read Body Language...' 'Former CIA Chief of Disguise Breaks Down 30 Spy Scenes From...' Not to mention reddit and reddit AMAs been used by government agencies to push an agenda.
- consumer451 2y ago
  The actual content of his AMA makes the whole US government apparatus look inept. Ask yourself, is this something that a US government agent would do?
  - smegsicle 2y ago
    only if they are interested in communicating to people who don't like the us government
- akira2501 2y ago
  > Ask yourself. Do 'hackers' talk like this or military/government employees? He said thought his tools would be "stolen?" Then this is a lame manufactured pretext which makes it worse. It also makes his actions and broadcasting them _more_ of a crime. I'm not sure what your point is here.
yatopifo 2y ago
No attack against North Korea can be considered a crime.